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Dec 07, 2009 11:07:16
kdk71mgb

Well, the wife told me today that her Grand Marquis was vibrating so we took in for a spin.... it seemed as though the transmission was "slipping" causing the car to shutter. I checked the fluid level and added about a pint to bring it back to full. I drove it a short way and it seemed to help some but occasionally it still seemed to shift rough. Has anyone had their automatic transmission flushed? I was told by a friend that when they do this they basically "back-flush" and this cleans out the screens. The car has 48000 miles on it and it's never had the fluid changed. I didn't know if I should try this or just take it to the dealership or a tranny shop.

Thoughts, advice?

Dec 07, 2009 17:20:58
John D. Weimer

At 48,000 miles it should be OK if you haven't done a lot of heavy towing with it. This looks like a little bit of a gummy valve body which doesn't amount to much. What I'd do is dump in a can of Sea Foam Transtune and that just might do the trick. A clogged filter in this cool weather would cause it to be sluggish about getting into gear the first thing in the mornings. If the fluid looks clean and has only a clean oil smell it is fine. Bad fluid will discolor and take on a smell sort of like shellac. Don't worry about overfilling if you add a can of Transtune, a pint over full won't hurt a thing.





Dec 07, 2009 17:42:00
mac townsend

48,000 miles is kinda young to have transmission problems.Any possibility there's still factory or an extended warranty on the car?

Properly flushing a transmission involves two steps flushing all the fluid out, then replacing the old filter with a new one (simply replacing the filter will replace only about 25-50% of the fluid).:

(usually they use a machine that includes both a reservoir for new fluid and a tank for old fluid...but if you are cleaver (and careful) you can do it without making a mess yourself.

You will need perhaps 2 cases (24 cans) of fluid. Because you will be replacing more than all the fluid in the trans, including the torque converter (which usually is not drained when one simply replaces the filter). You will also need a new filter for that transmission (best to verify the transmission model, perhaps it is stamped in the trans oil pan under the car, because the same model car could have several transmission options and it is not fun to have the thing torn down and then find you have the wrong part.)

At the radiator there are two lines from the trans. (usually the bottom tank or the RH tank on a cross flow car) In case of the cross flow car, I think the top connection is old fluid from the box to the rad and the lower one is back to the box. You should check this to be sure!!!) You will need to disconnect the "to the radiator" connection and rig a hose-deal to pipe it to a large bucket or small garbage can. Then you'll need to rig a 1-2 gallon reservoir you can fill as you go, with a hose connecting to the return line. the reservoir should be several feet higher than the line for gravity flow.

Then you idle the engine. the old fluid is pumped into your catch container and new fluid is sucked back in from your reservoir. You are done with Part One when the stuff coming out is as clean looking as the stuff going in. Reconnect the lines as they originally were.

Then, for a complete job, on to part 2. This is replacing the filter...which is in the transmission oil pan. You don't want to do this before the flush because then you'll be pushing all the old fluid thru the new filter. You will have to drop the pan (they usually do not have drains, so you loosen the screws and let one edge hang much lower and the stuff in the pan will spill out. You will need a 2+ gallon catch basin (I have used a large restaurant "bus tray" available at Sam's Club pretty cheaply). Yes, this will dump out about 3-5 quarts of the new fluid you just put in. When the stuff quits running down your sleeve remove the pan and pull out the filter. Replace the filter, replace the pan gasket (if it has one, or use silicone seal as instructed in the instructions that should be in the filter box). Then top up the trans and you are done.

Most of us will then have to spend an hour or so cleaning up the mess we just made in the street or driveway, but I imagine you are far smarter than us and won't have made this mess.

Or you will take it to a transmission place and have it done.<G> The transmission place may even have an adjustment they can make.

When I used to work in an oil change place we charged about $175 for this. However I would not recommend taking it to anyplace other than a dealer or transmission specialist (the guy who did ours managed to do it wrong every now and then and several expensive transmissions got fried and the boss got 6o buy new tramissions for them. (why did he do it wrong, lack of proper training. That's why I recommend a transmission shop or Ford dealer.

Dec 07, 2009 18:28:46
mgbgts

My Brother (mechanic for a local shop, and rebuilds lots of trannys) told me Ford had TONS of problems with transmission shudder on thier A4OD (which is what that should have in it). The converters were the culprits, there is actually an additive out there called "Ford transmission shudder stop", but you have to find a transmission rebuilding shop to get it (not even the dealer has it). My 93 Ford van shudders too (why my brother told me about it), I haven't got over to the only place in the area that has the additive yet, I hardly ever drive it. I did a search on it, and every Ford foum out there has had lots of discusions about this (and the dealer plays dumb about it if you ask).

Dec 08, 2009 04:52:17
kdk71mgb

Geeze fella's... Thanks fot he fast and comprehensive response's. I did talk to a tranny shop... basically their recomendation was in line with your's Mac. This car, as you can tell doesn't have a lot of miles v/s it's age and they feel as though a filter/fuid change may be the fix. I'll ask them about the shudder issues that Rob talks about as well as the gummy valve possibilites too JD.... I hope it's just something along those lines instead of a torque converter or something.
Thanks again.... I knew I could get some very dependable advice on this forum..... it's simply the best! I'll let you know how it turns out...
Don

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