So I have finally got the '72 GT running good, and have been doing little runs around town, and have encountered an odd problem. If I am cruising along, at about 25-30mph and come to a stop sign, I apply the brakes hard, I stop fine. Take off fine. If, on the other hand, I apply the brakes slowly, and slow to a stop, and just before I stop pull off the brake peddle completly, at least one wheel (back left, I think) locks up. It stays locked for about a minute or so, then lets me go. I am aware of the collapsing line problem, is this it? I am fairly sure I have that in the clutch as well. If so out of all of the lines Moss sells which ones are the best bargain?
Thanks,
Paul.
Braking issue
The MG Experience ~ MGB & GT Forum ~ Archives
MG MGB and MGB GT Tech Talk
MGB & GT Forum: Braking issue
http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?1,757006,page=1
Join the discussion, post your photos, or ask your own questions. Membership is FREE!
I think I would look at the wheel first. Pull off the recalcitrant drum and see if the springs are free. Maybe need the cylinder rebuilt - that is fresh rubber parts - I just did mine a week ago.
I assume they are adjusted.
Best guess would be new cylinders and hose while you are at it. Use a half can of brake cleaner on each side.
Far fetched though is the fact that many of the DIY persons put the brakes or springs on goofy. I would check that first.
Larry
Jim K Wrote:
I think I would look at the wheel first. Pull off the recalcitrant drum and see if the springs are free. Maybe need the cylinder rebuilt - that is fresh rubber parts - I just did mine a week ago.
"
Not a bad idea.
tomkatb Wrote:
I assume they are adjusted.
Best guess would be new cylinders and hose while you are at it. Use a half can of brake cleaner on each side.
Far fetched though is the fact that many of the DIY persons put the brakes or springs on goofy. I would check that first.
Larry
"
Never assume. I have noticed that the E-Brake is not really holding, so they could be out of adjustment, but loose.
I know how bad some people can do brakes. On my Porsche I had the PO was having problems with the hand brake so he "disconnected" it by removing the bar that held the adjuster in place. Basically removing the rear brakes from the circuit.
Anyway, they were working fine "when parked" and fairly recently, which is why I am suspicious of a failure in compnents. Are the cylenders hard to rebuild? $20 is far better choice than $60 for parts.
Paul
tomkatb Wrote:
.....
Far fetched though is the fact that many of the DIY persons put the brakes or springs on goofy. I would check that first.
Larry
"
Should look like this.
Chris
Paul - no - they are quite easy to rebuild.
However...
The bottom pistons on both rears on my '71 GT were seized - a liberal annointing with PB Blaster and tincture of time (plus a BFH and a crow bar) and they came loose. If they are seized, I would recommend removing them from hydraulic tube and the plate. I polished them up and put a little grease on the top of the pistons to minimize that from happening again in the near future. The rubber caps - on the last one I did, I discovered that if you turn the cap inside-out they pop right on! I almost pulled the other three off to do it again properly!
Again, except for the seized pistons, it was one of the easiest MG jobs I've done.
sweep Wrote:
Should look like this.
Chris
"
$#!^ - Sweep, I guess I need to take it apart again and color-code the lot.
The rear brake above is a passenger side. The drivers is a mirror image of it. Confusing. Note the brakes and their orientation.
Bleeding brakes is a pain. As such if I thought one of the cylinders was bad I would not try rebuilding it. Rebuilding is not always successful.
Larry
Chris - Don't let James see that picture our you'll never hear the end of it!!! :)
Paul
PaulP Wrote:
Chris - Don't let James see that picture our you'll never hear the end of it!!!
Paul
"
OK you two... I know about "conspiricy theories." Got Sweep in on it, eh?
tomkatb Wrote: [
Bleeding brakes is a pain.
Larry
[/quote]
Bleeding brakes is easy, and takes less than half an hour. Did you know that BMC-BL recommends replacing (read - bleeding) brake juice (DOT3) every 2 (two) years? Who does that really (except me?)
Start from the longest run - R side rear > L side rear> R side front > L side front.
Takes about a pint - pump the brakes 10 times then check the reservoir.
I use a tube - (if you are or know someone in the nursing business) discarded Oxygen tubing with the end - attached to the bleed valve and placed into an empty container above the level of the brake master.
Open the bleed valve - 1/4 in the rear, 7/16 in the front - attach the tubing as noted (the "end" fits both sizes) - pump the brake as noted above - or stop when bubbles stop appearing and/or fluid is clear.
This is a simple one person job.
This is an archived discussion from the The MG Experience Forums
If you would like to post a reply, please click below to visit the The MG Experience Forums:MGB & GT Forum: Braking issue
Archive Index | The MG Experience Forums | Return to The MG Experience