Carpet Install - Weldwood Gel? Weldwood Non-Flammable?

I'm planning on installing my carpet kit - finally. It seems to me brush-on adhesive would make less of a mess than spray. Weldwood makes three contact cements - original formula, original formula gel, and Non-Flammable. The non-flammable takes longer to set up (might be an advantage), but they don't say its good for high heat applications like they do the original formula. The gel seem like it might be a good idea, especially for carpet since its absorbent.

Anybody used any of these? Any other suggestions?

Use the Original.

I agree with Swamper. The original snaps allow you take them out, if or when they get wet, or dirty. However, the metal around my snaps are rusted out, along with alot of the front part of the floor pans:(.


peace, Kyle

Swamper is right...the original

Original it will be - thanks!

I always used the original formula, until I accidentally picked up a can of the gel at Home Despot - I am a changed man! The gel is much easier to use, especially on porous surfaces (like carpet backing), and it brushes on much more easily.

I'll never go back!

The only place you might want to glue carpet down would be the sills and the fender areas in the back. Big mistake to glue any of the other bits down. You are just asking for cleaning difficulties and giving an open invitation to the tin worm. Either leave them loose and draped or fabricate some sort of velcro or metal stud arrangements.

Jack

Non-flammable sounds so boring and safe. Danger is my middle name so I'd go with the flammable stuff. Seriously, original gel works great. Paul

Agreed - only glue down the bits that have to be glued! In addition to the parts Jack mentioned, also the toe-board, heel board, and tunnel covers. The seats hold the rear floor carpet, and snaps or velcro for the front and battery cover.

My cars are all dirty. Can I bring them down one at a time Paul?

Did you really think that you were going to post that pic and NOT get some sort of comments? LOL Let's see just how long this thread will get!

Jack

Ummm, Jack - you clearly missed this (and follow up) posts:

http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?1,617950,617950#msg-617950

(Don't let the wife catch you!) ;)

Nice looking red GT, yes?

Jack

Twig took the words out of my mouth (about the glue, not the 'friend')
I got the gel formula at HD by accident and it was night and day compared to the other type. But as said, I only glue my sill, rear kick panel, and wheel arches.

I've got some fairly detailed directions from Prestige, including what to glue and what not to glue. I'm not much for lots of gluing, so if I can keep from doing it I will.

So, maybe I should try the gel now.

Sometimes I think if one of us asked if the sky was blue there would be a major controversy - over the shade of blue if nothing else! :D

I just did this and I used 3M Fast Foam Orange spray. Very precise spray pattern and sticks like crazy. Hard to find though.

Since we're talking adhesives here what's the best stuff to glue down the dash panel vinyl with? Last time I did one I used contact cement (don't remember the particulars) and the edges of the vinyl started peeling up around the defroster vent holes very shortly thereafter. Maybe this gel you speak of would work better here?

Shawn Escue

Went to Home Depot yesterday and didn't see the gel stuff there or even a tag for it. They had the original and the non-flammable stuff but nothing else. I've got about 1/2 gallon of the original stuff in my garage left over from another project so maybe I should just try it on the carpet and the dash panel vinyl. I just don't want to have to re-do anything -again!

Shawn Escue

I recently finished my full rebuild on 77 B and she looks great. I also installed an entire new interior but I used the 3M spary cans and it wasnt difficult at all. I did mask for overspary a little wnhen I was installing around door jams and sills. Thhe glue is a littel forgiving I will say. Spary both surfaces let set a few and install but of course dry fit first. I did a little each day and in no time it was sweet! I did use the carpet snaps for all areas that they were in on orginal just for the fact that during winter lay up they could let air get to floor of car even though its stord in doors. It's easy dont over think just go slow and DRY FIT first!

Michael

I used standard Weldwood contact cement on my pillow dash and center console. You have experience with it, it works great, use it.

Mike

Good automotive stores like Napa carry 3M vinyl/convertible top adhesive in a spray can. It sprays onyellow and stringy and works amazingly well in high heat ares. Its the perfect adhesive for dashboards, underhood liners, and I used it on carpet as well. One can is enough for everythin gonthe car you might come up with!

Sean - the original and the gel seem to work equally well. I bought the gel by mistake, but found it is easier to apply than the original. You may find you need a couple of applications of the original on the back side of carpets - but it still works great!

Be sure to let it dry for at least 10 minutes before you put the items to be glued together. In fact, I have left it up to two hours and it still worked perfectly!

Dry fit is important - you cannot move it once it is stuck! In tricky places, I found it was easier to glue in stages - on the sill coverings for example - I stuck the top first, then folded the carpet back and applied glue to the vertical parts, wait 20 mins, and lay it into place! Works like magic!

3M super 90 spray adhesive. Available at Lowe's or probably Home Depot as well (didn't check there). I've noticed that most of the smaller building centers/hardware stores don't seem to have this stuff, but it's the best I've ever used. My experience with most of the other contact cements is that they don't offer a lasting hold. Nothing is more frustrating than having stuff come loose a year later and posses all the sticking power of yellow post-it notes...

Sean