I've looked at this product for some time and although I'm generally moving towards "stock" setups being the best option, I'm always bothered by the leaf springs (as are many others given the previous commentary on these boards found in the searches and that the original MG engineers wanted a trailing arm setup). The Frontline kit looks amazing but at $4200 a bit steep. Bill's kit has a good price and I interested to hear some commentary on how it installed and how it worked once on the road. Any comments appreciated.
Thanks,
Tom
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I have one of Bill's cars, the "mule" that was the test bed for fitting these parts. The 4-link rear suspension works so well, I wouldn't (re)build a car without it. Hap & Fred put one on the PanAm GT shell I bought from Hap last year for me, and the comments were all positive about ease of installation. There really is no down-side.
The only thing you will need to do with your 1980 MGB is do a slight redesign of the battery box.....the top link on the right side will interfere with the factory setup.
A little welding is all that was required. You can see what I did in this picture...note, it is a Ford 8", not an MGB diff...makes no difference, you will still need to make the change.....
That 4-link is major bad-ass looking. LOL
I dunno though, the leaf springs with some extra links (panhard and anti-tramp) works pretty damn good. The adjustable coil-overs is what makes it extra special.
does this really cure the rear end hop on a corrugated/pitted road surface?
That certainly looks like a much cleaner, and tidier, setup than the leaf springs with anti-tramp bars and panhard rod - looks easier to install too! I am impressed!
What do the coilovers mount to at the top?
I think the coilovers mount to the same bracket that the top links connect to, you just can't see it in Rick's picture.
Rick, why don't you really hurt me and post a photo of your fastcars front suspension:(
I think the coilovers mount to the same bracket that the top links connect to, you just can't see it in Rick's picture."
Correct.
Rick, why don't you really hurt me and post a photo of your fastcars front suspension:("
That would not be very kind of me, would it? ;)
Looks great BUT what about travel. Are the bump stops still there and if you do lower it will it get to pre nader height?. I have tried several dir of config to great a good ride in my 75 B and still either have to stiff of a ride or to soft and bottoming out on small pot holes. Also hows does it handle comparied to the STK setup?
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Rick, why don't you really hurt me and post a photo of your fastcars front suspension:("
That would not be very kind of me, would it? ;)[/quote]
No it wouldn't...be a lot of fun for the rest of us though.
Pete.
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[quote=pgawan2be]
Rick, why don't you really hurt me and post a photo of your fastcars front suspension:("
That would not be very kind of me, would it? ;)[/quote]
No it wouldn't...be a lot of fun for the rest of us though.
Pete.[/quote]
OK...Here ya go....You CANNOT run 14" rims with this suspension..and 15" are tight, but doable.
Looks great BUT what about travel. Are the bump stops still there and if you do lower it will it get to pre nader height?. I have tried several dir of config to great a good ride in my 75 B and still either have to stiff of a ride or to soft and bottoming out on small pot holes. Also hows does it handle comparied to the STK setup?"
You can see the bumpstops still on the bodywork on the picture that I attached. This setup as I installed it, immediately lowered the car by 2"...and I have adjustments left to go down further if I so desire.
The coils supplied are #165. Graham has gone up to #185 and eliminated the "bottoming out" that he first experienced with his install. I will probably do the same, as my GT weighs more than his tourer.
There is no comparison when it comes to handling. The four link is by-far superior.....my opinion, of course.
Just curious, Do these systems reduce weight or are the heavier than the stock systems? Does anybody know?
Both the FastCars front suspension and the Classic Conversions four link weigh LESS than the stock setup.
Rick....I see you have converted to rear engine as well. With the full size spare up front, is there much room for luggage?
If you lower it 2 inches what about travel between the axel and bump stops. My problem on my rubber bumper is that it still needs to lower another 1/2 inch and I already bottom out some times, normally just on bumps. I no dought that this setup is great but how would it prevent bump streer, I drive in the mountain a lot and this scares me now
You can see the bumpstops still on the bodywork on the picture that I attached. This setup as I installed it, immediately lowered the car by 2"...and I have adjustments left to go down further if I so desire.
The coils supplied are #165. Graham has gone up to #185 and eliminated the "bottoming out" that he first experienced with his install. I will probably do the same, as my GT weighs more than his tourer.
There is no comparison when it comes to handling. The four link is by-far superior.....my opinion, of course
Rick....I see you have converted to rear engine as well. With the full size spare up front, is there much room for luggage?"
Lloyd, you must have missed the fact that there is no fuel tank in the rear...it has been moved to the front, which lessens the chance of "combustion ala Pinto" during a rear-end collision.
:smoking:
If you lower it 2 inches what about travel between the axel and bump stops. My problem on my rubber bumper is that it still needs to lower another 1/2 inch and I already bottom out some times, normally just on bumps. I no dought that this setup is great but how would it prevent bump streer, I drive in the mountain a lot and this scares me now
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See Graham's comment's reagarding handling here: http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?7,8751
There is also another current thread on this topic in the V8/V6 forum of this BBS! Bill Guzman has made some comments on that thread.
"combustion ala Pinto" now you're aging yourself....half the people on here don't even know what a Pinto is...was...
"combustion ala Pinto" now you're aging yourself....half the people on here don't even know what a Pinto is...was..."
LOL! I would rather "age myself" than "date myself"!
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