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Dec 02, 2009 17:24:23
TomCarter

I've looked at this product for some time and although I'm generally moving towards "stock" setups being the best option, I'm always bothered by the leaf springs (as are many others given the previous commentary on these boards found in the searches and that the original MG engineers wanted a trailing arm setup). The Frontline kit looks amazing but at $4200 a bit steep. Bill's kit has a good price and I interested to hear some commentary on how it installed and how it worked once on the road. Any comments appreciated.
Thanks,
Tom

Dec 02, 2009 17:30:29
sailadams

I have one of Bill's cars, the "mule" that was the test bed for fitting these parts. The 4-link rear suspension works so well, I wouldn't (re)build a car without it. Hap & Fred put one on the PanAm GT shell I bought from Hap last year for me, and the comments were all positive about ease of installation. There really is no down-side.





Dec 02, 2009 17:51:49
mowog1

The only thing you will need to do with your 1980 MGB is do a slight redesign of the battery box.....the top link on the right side will interfere with the factory setup.

A little welding is all that was required. You can see what I did in this picture...note, it is a Ford 8", not an MGB diff...makes no difference, you will still need to make the change.....

Dec 02, 2009 18:43:28
Filth and Greed Motors

That 4-link is major bad-ass looking. LOL

I dunno though, the leaf springs with some extra links (panhard and anti-tramp) works pretty damn good. The adjustable coil-overs is what makes it extra special.

Dec 02, 2009 19:34:27
mac townsend

does this really cure the rear end hop on a corrugated/pitted road surface?

Dec 03, 2009 05:32:27
Limey

That certainly looks like a much cleaner, and tidier, setup than the leaf springs with anti-tramp bars and panhard rod - looks easier to install too! I am impressed!

What do the coilovers mount to at the top?

Dec 03, 2009 05:36:49
Ryan Reis

I think the coilovers mount to the same bracket that the top links connect to, you just can't see it in Rick's picture.

Dec 03, 2009 06:20:12
pgawan2be

Rick, why don't you really hurt me and post a photo of your fastcars front suspension:(

Dec 03, 2009 06:27:43
mowog1

Quote: "
I think the coilovers mount to the same bracket that the top links connect to, you just can't see it in Rick's picture."


Correct.

Dec 03, 2009 06:29:40
mowog1

Quote: "
Rick, why don't you really hurt me and post a photo of your fastcars front suspension:("


That would not be very kind of me, would it? ;)

Dec 03, 2009 19:28:13
DIPPY

Looks great BUT what about travel. Are the bump stops still there and if you do lower it will it get to pre nader height?. I have tried several dir of config to great a good ride in my 75 B and still either have to stiff of a ride or to soft and bottoming out on small pot holes. Also hows does it handle comparied to the STK setup?

Dec 03, 2009 20:50:51
Peter7307

Quote: "
[quote=pgawan2be]
Rick, why don't you really hurt me and post a photo of your fastcars front suspension:("


That would not be very kind of me, would it? ;)[/quote]

No it wouldn't...be a lot of fun for the rest of us though.

Pete.

Dec 04, 2009 11:14:38
mowog1

Quote: "
[quote=mowog1]
[quote=pgawan2be]
Rick, why don't you really hurt me and post a photo of your fastcars front suspension:("


That would not be very kind of me, would it? ;)[/quote]

No it wouldn't...be a lot of fun for the rest of us though.

Pete.[/quote]

OK...Here ya go....You CANNOT run 14" rims with this suspension..and 15" are tight, but doable.

Dec 04, 2009 11:18:12
mowog1

Quote: "
Looks great BUT what about travel. Are the bump stops still there and if you do lower it will it get to pre nader height?. I have tried several dir of config to great a good ride in my 75 B and still either have to stiff of a ride or to soft and bottoming out on small pot holes. Also hows does it handle comparied to the STK setup?"


You can see the bumpstops still on the bodywork on the picture that I attached. This setup as I installed it, immediately lowered the car by 2"...and I have adjustments left to go down further if I so desire.

The coils supplied are #165. Graham has gone up to #185 and eliminated the "bottoming out" that he first experienced with his install. I will probably do the same, as my GT weighs more than his tourer.

There is no comparison when it comes to handling. The four link is by-far superior.....my opinion, of course.

Dec 04, 2009 11:56:29
TFC

Just curious, Do these systems reduce weight or are the heavier than the stock systems? Does anybody know?

Dec 04, 2009 12:00:56
mowog1

Both the FastCars front suspension and the Classic Conversions four link weigh LESS than the stock setup.

Dec 04, 2009 15:19:54
balloonfoot

Rick....I see you have converted to rear engine as well. With the full size spare up front, is there much room for luggage?

Dec 04, 2009 15:20:16
DIPPY

If you lower it 2 inches what about travel between the axel and bump stops. My problem on my rubber bumper is that it still needs to lower another 1/2 inch and I already bottom out some times, normally just on bumps. I no dought that this setup is great but how would it prevent bump streer, I drive in the mountain a lot and this scares me now

You can see the bumpstops still on the bodywork on the picture that I attached. This setup as I installed it, immediately lowered the car by 2"...and I have adjustments left to go down further if I so desire.

The coils supplied are #165. Graham has gone up to #185 and eliminated the "bottoming out" that he first experienced with his install. I will probably do the same, as my GT weighs more than his tourer.

There is no comparison when it comes to handling. The four link is by-far superior.....my opinion, of course

Dec 04, 2009 15:29:55
mowog1

Quote: "
Rick....I see you have converted to rear engine as well. With the full size spare up front, is there much room for luggage?"


Lloyd, you must have missed the fact that there is no fuel tank in the rear...it has been moved to the front, which lessens the chance of "combustion ala Pinto" during a rear-end collision.

:smoking:

Dec 04, 2009 15:32:29
mowog1

Quote: "
If you lower it 2 inches what about travel between the axel and bump stops. My problem on my rubber bumper is that it still needs to lower another 1/2 inch and I already bottom out some times, normally just on bumps. I no dought that this setup is great but how would it prevent bump streer, I drive in the mountain a lot and this scares me now

"


See Graham's comment's reagarding handling here: http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?7,8751

There is also another current thread on this topic in the V8/V6 forum of this BBS! Bill Guzman has made some comments on that thread.

Dec 04, 2009 15:35:45
balloonfoot

"combustion ala Pinto" now you're aging yourself....half the people on here don't even know what a Pinto is...was...

Dec 04, 2009 15:47:34
mowog1

Quote: "
"combustion ala Pinto" now you're aging yourself....half the people on here don't even know what a Pinto is...was..."


LOL! I would rather "age myself" than "date myself"!

:bouncing:

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