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Do you use a Honda Accord Spare tire for your donut spare?
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I don't think that the Honda has the correct bolt pattern, does it?
You need 4 on 4-1/2" which is (I believe) 4 on 114mm. Most Hondas are 4 on 100mm.
Some Saab and Nissan 280ZX have the correct bolt pattern.
Got one from an anonymous Saab. 'Spose I should start carrying it around with me. ;)
Some 4-cylinder Accords have the correct pattern, but I can't remember which years. Problem is going to be the offset. I've seen pics of Bs running Accord wheels - but spacers are needed. I believe all the V6s are wrong...5 lug maybe??
I don't think that the Honda has the correct bolt pattern, does it?
You need 4 on 4-1/2" which is (I believe) 4 on 114mm. Most Hondas are 4 on 100mm.
Some Saab and Nissan 280ZX have the correct bolt pattern."
I found this.
http://www.chicagolandmgclub.com/techtips/mgb/ss_spare.html
Nice pics on that site to show how much space can be saved. Heck, on late RB car you could probably build a rack to stow the spacesaver spare between the engine and radiator! :D
I'm running 15" accord wheels with double spacers in the rear (even with the steel wheel rear end). They came off a 2000 Accord 4 banger.
I wouldn't mind having a little extra room in my trunk, but I've never quite understood why an extra cubic foot of space back there was such a big deal . . .? You could flip the standard spare upside down and use the inside of the wheel for some of the junk. I've got tools, gloves, first aid kit, oil filters, etc. but don't feel the need for extra space. Maybe on a very long trip I would. Maybe this is just one more thing to do on the car, but I guess it would be pretty low on my priority list.
The space saver wheels are not only thinner but they are a smaller diameter. Upside down in the LH corner of the boot all you have is a thin arc of narrow tyre across the corner, It effectively doubles the size of the boot.
pre '87 saab spare, the grey coloured one, not the orange one. Make sure it has a good tyre. The wheel and tyre is around 12 inches diameter and the tyre is run at 60 psi. When you put it on the car the ride height is identical to within one quarter of an inch. If the outside rubber is good the inside will be fine (more oxygen/.oxidative material on he outside).
Volvo and Saab wreckers will have them for around $50.
I also carry a can of hoyts latex tyre inflater/repair. It is almost always raining when I have puncture and these get me away quick, and are good for a week or more. A year in one case. Most reputable tyre places do not a have a problem with laytex inflators. Laytex is harmless, just smelly if it is a cheap variety. The con men will try to sell you a tyre because it is, oh I don;t know, evil or something. What ever their fevered brains dream up. Stay away from those people.
The spare tyre is for those once every five years event where the tyre inflater doesn't do the trick.
Actually Ted (Ted R. Schneider ) gave me the idea/recommendation, hopefully he'll post a photo that shows it well.
I think space saver spare wheels are a con.
If you have one and use all the space it saves, where do you put the full size wheel when you have a flat.
I think space saver spare wheels are a con.
If you have one and use all the space it saves, where do you put the full size wheel when you have a flat."
Luggage Rack ?
I had a new Porsche 996 turbo, which has a VERY wide rear wheel and tire. When it suffered a flat, I knew I would have to put it inside the car or wait for the tow truck.
Surprisingly, Porsche's tool kit included a pair of gloves, so I could change the wheel without getting my hands dirty, AND a clear plastic bag to put the flat tire/wheel in, so it didnt dirty the interior! Wow!
Owen, it should be a very rare event when you actually need the spare, It is there for the few occasions when the hoyts tyre repair doesn't work, Then the flat goes in the boot and if it so happens on that day you've got a box of groceries in the boot then they go behind the seats for the trip to the tyre repair place.
Mike I like the idea of carrying a plastic bag for th dirty spare, I'm going to do that. I've already got a box of gloves in the back.
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I wouldn't mind having a little extra room in my trunk, but I've never quite understood why an extra cubic foot of space back there was such a big deal . . .? You could flip the standard spare upside down and use the inside of the wheel for some of the junk. I've got tools, gloves, first aid kit, oil filters, etc. but don't feel the need for extra space. Maybe on a very long trip I would. Maybe this is just one more thing to do on the car, but I guess it would be pretty low on my priority list."
My dad did that on his years ago. He also made a cover out of plywood with a finger hole in it that fit inside the rim bead and covered it with vinyl. As I remember, he kept some tools in there, plus what ever.
What do all of you who use these old spacesaver spares do for the tire on them? I wouldn't want to be relying on a 20-year old tire.
Mines just fine, a Michelin tyre. Don't know how old it is. Looks new. UV & Oxygen in the air will degrade the rubber, eventually. The outside has more oxygen available obviously so the inside will look better than the outside.
I checked if you could buy a replacement tyre. You can but you need to phone around and find a cooperative tyre place. Shipping in one spacesaver tyre is not going to make them rich. I rang a couple of people, one said impossible (too much trouble) , the other said sure but it'd take a week or two. Although the SAAB wheel that fits the MGB is old, the more modern (orange colour, wrong bolt pattern) saab spacesavers use much the same tyre. If you were in a desperate hurry to replace the tyre, you could always buy a newer space saver for $50 (no one wants them) and swap the tyre across. Might be cheaper that way.
Any 115/70 R15 tyre would do.
The details/info printed on my tyre are
Michelin
T115/70 R15
Tubeless radial
60PSI
Z4555 70245
Australia Canada USA
Max Load 595kg
The wheel is a 15 inch. Overall diameter of wheel plus tyre is two inches less than the MGB wheel and tyre, but it's inflated hard at 60PSI so doesn't compress. Same ride height.
I test drove mine, very noisy, it was like I had a solid rubber wheel on. Keep in mind also that the MGB is a fraction of the weight of the SAAB.. And it looked awful. But it gets the job done.
A nissan stanza spare fits I'm told (not confirmed).Something called a Lincoln (not confirmed).
To find an alternative to the SAAB will involve some effort.
Aside from the bolt patter, there is also the unusually large centre hub projecting on MGB's, so you need a large centre hole. Also it can;t have too much offset or it will interfere with brake calliper.
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