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Nov 29, 2009 21:53:27
1975 MG Midget Special

if you take the emission control stuff off does it increase power?

Nov 30, 2009 08:39:54
Bryanm362

I think the general consensus is it does help some. Logically, it makes sense. The engine doesn't have to turn the air pump and a little less wieght. Don't know exactly what the horsepower gain is.





Nov 30, 2009 11:17:15
1975 MG Midget Special

did you take yours off?

Nov 30, 2009 13:30:24
Bryanm362

Most was off when I got the car. I am eleminating the charcoal cannister and vapor tank in the trunk. If you do that you have to vent your gas cap.

Nov 30, 2009 15:42:47
1975 MG Midget Special

ok cool. how much power did you think it increased? if it doesnt do much much of an increase i wont take it off cause i would like to keep the engine stock (by leaving all of the original parts there)/

Dec 01, 2009 18:26:35
Bryanm362

I don't know what the power gain is, I dout it's much. I haven't driven this car with it on, so I can't give you a comparison.

Dec 01, 2009 18:41:45
maddy

I thought I felt an increase in power when I removed all my smog, probably not much though. The big change is when I got rid of the ZS carb and put a single SU HIF4 carb on.
IMPO I think stock is a little over rated when comes to smog and how much the engines changed due to regs.
Best of luck!

Dec 01, 2009 18:42:35
theleisure

from what i've heard the vapor tank doesn't do anything to horsepower and actually does a decent job at containing vapors that harm the environment... i could be wrong, it's only what i've heard.

Dec 01, 2009 19:00:39
maddy

I think Sean is right on the vapor tank.

I did get better MPG after the changes, maybe 10%. I give the carb the credit.

Dec 01, 2009 19:38:48
1975 MG Midget Special

ok. thanks for the info

Dec 02, 2009 04:06:57
1275midget

There is no comment on horse power change, but this is what Lindsay Porter says in his 'Guide to Purchase & DIY Restoration MG Midget......' book, on page 257:

"The North American owner who wishes to 'de-tox' his or her car may gain the following advantages (although nothing can be guaranteed): mileage may be better; acceleration can improve; decelleration too, should be sharper (there will be generally more positive throttle response); there'll be no more 'popping' or red hot converters; the engine looks "cleaner"; the front spark plug will no longer be hidden from view."B)

Dec 02, 2009 16:08:13
1975 MG Midget Special

so (in my opinion) i dont think its worth taking off. if your not getting a lot of extra power its not worth dealing with.

Dec 02, 2009 17:05:25
maddy

Quote: "
so (in my opinion) i dont think its worth taking off. if your not getting a lot of extra power its not worth dealing with."

I'd say you're correct, if not changing out the carb.

Dec 02, 2009 17:55:20
couch229

it seems to me that there are 7 advantages.there is no mention of recarbing or rejetting.yes once you go that route i dont think you can go back to stock with out some added work.i also think that there is a very small if no hp gain.there are also less parts to have to replace.check out a reman airpump from VB wow.check valve?hoses?the engine bay also looks cleaner.if its a daily driver i say keep it stock,stay green.a weekender with high priced parts,keep it clean.

Dec 02, 2009 21:01:04
1975 MG Midget Special

ya this is my daily driver so I guess I will keep the emission control stuff in. and thanks for the advice

Dec 03, 2009 06:32:36
mjamgb

Logically, you will realize a gain in power but it probably won't be noticeable without further changes:

Better carb - HIF44 is pretty much a bolt-in conversion. Earlier model dual carbs even better but require manifolds (more $$).
Better exhaust - Lose the Cat at a minimum.
Better ignition - needs to match the intake/exhaust system... Jeff Schlemmer can help you there!

Keeping the charcoal cannister and PCV system cost you nothing and help keep vapors out of the air.

A properly tuned MG will emit very minor volumes of toxins.

If the stuff isn't working properly, why spend the $$ to replace it (price out some of the parts) unless your local DMV requires it?

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