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Oct 02, 2007 14:46:47
mick-susan mgb74.5

I meant to put this picture in the first post.

Oct 02, 2007 14:51:06
mga60t

would have been easier if you had the front end on the ground. Nice feeling to do the first engine. Everyone after that comes faster. congrats





Oct 02, 2007 14:54:44
Montrose

That's something I need to do, now that I have an OD transmission for my car.

Oct 02, 2007 14:59:45
KLUTZ

EEEEEE!!

Was someone underneath that car????

Glad you got it pulled with no casualties. :(

Paul

Oct 02, 2007 15:02:01
lhess

KLUTZ Wrote:

Quote: "
EEEEEE!!
Was someone underneath that car????
Glad you got it pulled with no casualties.
Paul
"


2x8's laid flat with chocks front and rear of the tires? Wasn't going anywhere. Probably stronger than ramps. Might have been easier to pull with front of car lower than rear.

Oct 02, 2007 15:02:24
dennis70

let the fun begin, if you are going to rebuild the engine, the only simple comment i have to make is install the oil filter attachtment to the engine while the engine is out. it has got to be easier to install the o ring and line up the oil filter adapter with the engine out. I spent a long time doing it while the engine was in the car, on my back, upside down, after many tries and loss of oil, not to mention the mess, I finally got it right. Dennis70

Oct 02, 2007 15:04:26
PaulM


Wooo Hooo... looks like your in for some fun Mick.

Oct 02, 2007 15:05:18
KLUTZ

lhess Wrote:

Quote: "

2x8's laid flat with chocks front and rear of the tires? Wasn't going anywhere. Probably stronger than ramps. Might have been easier to pull with front of car lower than rear.
"



Not even side to side?

Oct 02, 2007 15:08:22
72mgb4me

Mick, I hope the engine's not still dangling in the air like in the pic. It's much safer to lower it to the ground or get it mounted to the engine stand. Have fun!

Shawn Escue

Oct 02, 2007 15:10:53
mick-susan mgb74.5

I thought about how to get the car to the height I wanted it so it would be easy to work underneath it. Five 2 X 8 glued and screwed with chocks also glued and screwed front and rear. I was very safe under the car.
I used a tilt lift so it was not difficult getting everything out even with the front as high as it was.
Yes, this if fun.

Mick M.

Oct 02, 2007 15:13:59
mick-susan mgb74.5

Thanks Shawn, I lowered the it right after I took that picture.
Mick M.

Oct 02, 2007 15:15:13
lhess

KLUTZ Wrote:

Quote: "
lhess Wrote:Quote:
2x8's laid flat with chocks front and rear of the tires? Wasn't going anywhere. Probably stronger than ramps. Might have been easier to pull with front of car lower than rear.
Not even side to side?
"


2x10's would be better, but how much lateral movement would you have? I didn't have much, and my car was on jack stands. Both times. Jack stands have less footprint width than the 2x8's.

Oct 02, 2007 15:23:56
mick-susan mgb74.5

I went 2 X 8 because they are wider than the tires. I suppose 2 X 10 would be better. But then 2 X 12 would be better yet. Before I ever got under the car I pushed and pulled from every direction. If I would have had any dout, I would have done something different. Thanks for your concern though. Really.
Mick M.

Oct 02, 2007 15:47:04
mick-susan mgb74.5

I've got lots of clean up and paint to do. My wife will be more involved in that part of it. I really appreciate all the great advice I got from you guys. A book could be written about how much I don't know.

Mick M.

Oct 02, 2007 17:26:40
JimmyHilton

Mick,

It looks to me, that you were good and secure!

Congrats on a tough first step! Now that you have confidence in that, Y'all can do the rest just fine.

Oct 02, 2007 17:34:33
davidsauer1

Alright, this may be a stupid question but...How did you go about getting it on those blocks?

-David

Oct 02, 2007 18:19:47
sam66mgb

David asks a great question. How did you get up on those? How high off the floor is it.. I think you've given me a great project. I hate jack stands and I like to work underneath with the car on it's own suspension. Can you post a close up of your homemade work? I really like the look of that idea.

Oct 02, 2007 19:03:14
mick-susan mgb74.5

Here's some pictures

Oct 02, 2007 19:22:49
Swamperca

74.5's are great, best of both worlds.

Oct 02, 2007 19:29:38
72mgb4me

What do you mean by that Swamper? Seems to me like they're (74.5's) the best of the RB world which I know absolutely nothing about (by choice). You've got one of each it appears so what do you mean by "best of both worlds"? Happy motoring!

Shawn Escue

Oct 02, 2007 20:03:51
Swamperca

74.5 Is the RB model with the earlier running gear, the good carbs and no cat. it takes most of the earlier parts.

Oct 03, 2007 03:47:25
mick-susan mgb74.5

The downside of the 1974.5 model is that you have to have books covering 74 and back, plus 75 and forward. Rubber Bumpers are not a downside. I like them. I also like CB cars. To me it's like asking do you like apples or oranges? I like both of them too.
I like the way Swamper thinks. Don't limit yourself. Have a taste of all the fruit. BTW Swamper, your cars are beautiful. Both of them.

Mick M.

Oct 03, 2007 04:38:05
mick-susan mgb74.5

The reason I decided to use Blocks w/chocks was, #1. I don't trust Jack Stands. #2, The width of the Engine Hoist took up most of the room under the car and left little room for manuvering.
I used a floor Jack to raise the car enough to place the blocks w/chocks. The front is what limited the height because of the suspension. By the time I raised the front of the car enough for the front tires to clear the floor 7 1/2 inches, the Floor Jack was as high as I wanted to take it. That still gave me 16 5/8 inches clear under the car. Using a low riding creeper, I was very comfortable and was confident that the car was stable. The chock could easily been made higher, but I found it was not necessary.

Mick M.

Oct 03, 2007 05:10:02
KLUTZ

Those pictures reassured me Mick. Quite safe.

Now.. what about putting wheels on the bottom?

Paul

Oct 03, 2007 05:27:06
mick-susan mgb74.5

Wheels on the bottom? I don't understand what you mean.

Mick M.

Oct 03, 2007 05:30:10
KLUTZ

mick-susan mgb74.5 Wrote:

Quote: "
Wheels on the bottom? I don't understand what you mean.
Mick M.
"



Hey... It's early here this morning... :) Just thought it might be possible to put wheels on the bottom to move it around the shop but not at that height without putting another plate on the bottom.
Just ignore me Mick. :spinning:

Paul

Oct 03, 2007 05:40:47
mick-susan mgb74.5

You seem like a normal guy, but your not. Are you Paul? LOL

Mick M. (it's early here too)

Oct 03, 2007 10:56:06
davidsauer1

Those blocks are very cool Mick. I'm going to make some this weekend for when I change all of the fluids.

-David

Oct 03, 2007 11:12:41
mick-susan mgb74.5

David, I went to Home Depot and let them cut all the 20 inch pieces. 6 from 1 10'stick. They charged me 25 cents per cut. (1st 2 cuts free) The only pieces I cut myself were the chocks. I would have let them cut them except they won't cut angles.
I just didn't want to mix saw dust with what I was really working on. I bought 2 inch wood screws and glued each piece together and then anchored screws. I figured that would make it as solid a block as possible. Disallowing any lateral movement of the individual pieces.

Mick M.

Dec 18, 2008 10:22:38
comart45

Your idea is great. I'd feel safer under there with your chocks than with jack stands.

Dec 18, 2008 10:38:35
pgawan2be

Montrose Wrote:

Quote: "
That's something I need to do, now that I have an OD transmission for my car.
"


Oh Crap! First Paul now you...everyone is getting overdrive but me...I hope Santa reads this thread:(

Dec 18, 2008 10:44:08
Blake Sonnier

Time travel...

Dec 18, 2008 10:45:42
mowog1

Yep...I did a double take with at one of the posts.

:)

Dec 18, 2008 11:55:06
scottydawg

ZOMBIE THREAD RISES FROM THE DEAD.

I saw Shawn Escue's post and was like 'oh shi- he's back'.

Dec 18, 2008 13:05:33
Sprite Lou

ohhhh... i see - you're talking about building casters using the 2x8's (but not as tall)....might be cheaper than purchasing a set ($100+ at harbor fright).... interesting idea... with some decent reinforcement, it's plausible i suppose...

Dec 18, 2008 13:39:11
mick-susan mgb74.5

Susan just got the "Back To The Future" trilogy for me for my Birthday (59 on the 12th) Seeing this post brought back, made me do a double take and laugh.

Dec 18, 2008 17:32:52
BManBrian67


Am I missing something? I've seen many posts with people saying to raise the rear of the car, why is this? what's the benefit?

I understand the need to work under the car, but, why does everyone do this?

You're not the first Mick, and since this is your first engine extraction, I was wondering what your thinking was, was it solely to work under the car?

By the way, CONGRATS. After a few of these, you'll be able to do it qucikly! It gets easier and easier each and every time. You learn which order to do things, and what can stay and what MUST go. Starter for one, needs to go, I've learned that the hard way!

One bit of advice, Clean and chase each and every bolt hole and stud hole and get new hardware. Not only will it make getting everything back together much easier, but NEXT time, everything will come apart much easier!

HAVE FUN!!

B

Dec 18, 2008 17:43:22
PaulM



Yep Shawny....was his normal self, ithcing to start something.


So.. Mick has is the rebuild going?

Dec 19, 2008 11:02:26
mjamgb

Lifting the rear, as opposed to lifting the front or the entire thing, makes the angles for extracting the engine/tranny combo easier to achieve and gives extra space for the tailshaft to swing down without hitting the ground.

Dec 19, 2008 11:08:27
Blake Sonnier

You guy's do know this thread is from Oct. 2007 right..

Dec 19, 2008 11:15:27
Speedracer

I raise them up mostly because it takes a wide gap for a wide ass :) I jack everything up to the moon, I don't like working in tight spot. Jackstands don't scare me, but I probably put a LCBs on jackstands a thousand times.


The biggest mistake I see folks do, even professional garages is to not strip enough off the motor during a R&R, get lazy and try to leave the carbs/exhaust or filter housing on, then end up bending, banging or breaking something, being lazy will get you into trouble everytime

Dec 19, 2008 13:08:28
BManBrian67

So people lift the rear of the car so that the drive shaft comes out too?? or are you just talking about the rear of the trans?

I ALWAYS remove mine at the flange at the trans. It prevents this altogether.

I have always installed a loop of chain from the rearmost manifold bolts and then on the other side of the engine at the front, onto the water pump arm. This allows for not only front to rear tilt, but side to side also. By changing the point that the cherry picker attaches to the loop of chain.

Of course, like Hap said, REMOVE EVERYTHING FIRST. Dizzy, carbs, starter, generator, etc., etc. Just pulling the long block straight out is easiest, and NOTHING breaks or scratches.

Fun stuff, eh???? I love it! what I HATE working on is my 4x4 Suburban w/ a 6" lift. I have to hang upside down in the engine compartment. PAINFUL!!!!!

Have fun everyone!

B

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