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Feb 09, 2012 15:59:53
gow589

I spent some time this past fall changing some things around in the engine bay. It was lead by an oil line which came off and caught me off guard. I pulled the engine and went through it just to make sure it was ok.

I dropped the fuel injection in favor of something with less wiring. I wanted to go back to a carb for the spirit of the car more then anything.

I put the remote filter out of sight. I worked on my oil lines to ensure they would not come off again. The 3.4's carry pretty good oil pressure and securing the oil lines is critical.

While I was at it I made new headers and made many changes. I am not done. I still need to finish the cold air duct and a few trim pieces to close off the area around the radiator.

This is a before photo and there was more stuff added after that photo was taken.



Plates welded to cap off areas in the frame where everything seems to collect:



Aluminum on the decks and aluminum washer tank recessed into vacant hole.




Headers from scratch, ceramic coated in my kiln:






Water pipes were originally rubber tubing flopping around. Brass lines properly ran from servo water valve powder coated with high temp black:


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Added O2 gauge and Vacuum gauge but I did not want them in the dash so I set the radio delete plate with magnets:








Little duct work left to do on radiator shield:

Feb 09, 2012 16:10:55
NCtim

You work looks O/C. I like you . . .





Feb 09, 2012 16:21:03
flipsmg

GW, it looks great. Very nice work.

Feb 09, 2012 16:23:26
gow589

Thanks guys, I don't think the photos really show how much more cleaned up everything is.

I have heard the best restorations come when some one has fully restored the same car 3 times. I some times wish I could start over with another car but there just is not enough time in life and way to many other cars/projects.

Feb 09, 2012 19:44:25
djdavies

I hate you.



:)-D

Feb 10, 2012 05:12:18
Jim Blackwood

Looking REALLY good Gary. It'll be quite a show piece this time around, I'm not sure how much there will be left to improve.

Jim

Feb 10, 2012 05:50:04
gow589

Quote: "
Looking REALLY good Gary. It'll be quite a show piece this time around, I'm not sure how much there will be left to improve.

Jim
"


I think if I were to do another one, better wiring would be one goal. All the wiring is good and solid but much of it is too long and bundled up here and there. I am working hard on doing a better job of this on the Pantera. I think organizing wire looms is an art. The Pantera I am making the dash self contained with a removable plug.

Feb 10, 2012 06:19:58
Jim Blackwood

That sounds like a good plan, and you are right about the wires. Mine always comes out looking like spaghetti for some reason. Dan Masters does absolutely the best looking wiring I think I've ever seen. We really should get him to teach some tech sessions on that.

Jim

Feb 10, 2012 06:29:49
gow589

I think that is why guys that build 2-3 cars of the same thing finally get it right. There are a dozen circuits I didn't really plan for in the beginning or that changed over time. I added relays for things I never planned to in the beginning. One thing I did on the Pantera was remove the fuse panel from inside the car and put it in the front. I set up terminls making it easier to lay out circuits. Then I set up a relay panel.





Feb 10, 2012 10:00:28
BrsMgbv6

Sheeesh Gary, how many versions of awesome are ya going for? lol. That creation was and is a beaut, (in its former and current state!).

Feb 22, 2012 07:44:48
flipsmg

GW, I hate to ask but is that a Haywire fuse block in the Pantera? If so was it easy to work with? Thanks for the help.

Regards

Phil/flipsmg

Feb 22, 2012 08:00:33
gow589

Yes it is Phil,

I called Haywaire (no answer to emails) and got a connector kit to re-wire the fuse box. They acted like I was from Marrs wanting to rewire it. They were a little reluctant to do so but did. Their components are modular components from another vender and when they were slow to work with me I was thinking about selling my own modular groups.

I wanted to extend the primary because I needed to move the terminals to where you see them mounted. The aluminum panel is a relay panel. I have all the wires labeled with heat shrink labels and I made up a drawing. Any changes I made I change my drawing so I can maintain a current schematic of the car. The large wires in the front tub are from the electric power steering pump. The panel is a little large and bulky. This was a different approach as I had a few goals in mind:

1. I wanted bolt on terminals for wires such as these for easy configuration and re-configuration.
2. I wanted to move the fuse panel out from under the dash (right side foot well).
3. The dash I want to be plug in and easily removable as a modular unit.

I am just starting the wiring so I can't tell you if it is a good idea or not. It is the way I am approaching it.




Feb 22, 2012 10:54:33
302V8

Hi Gary,

Great job!

You need to bring the Pantera up to the shop sometime :)

Feb 22, 2012 11:03:14
gow589

Thanks Pete I definitely will! Drop by if you get down here.

Gary

Feb 22, 2012 13:18:19
460Jag

Gary, Great Work. I'm into "Clean under the Hood" myself.

Ken Nicks

Feb 22, 2012 13:23:43
gow589

Yours still looks cleaner then mine!

Feb 22, 2012 17:49:12
flipsmg

GW, thanks for the info. I was looking at the haywire fuse block myself to use a a later date. That engine bay looks great, I hope when I get done my bay looks close to that. Good Job!

Feb 23, 2012 10:21:51
1744

Looks GREAT Gary. Lots of creative stuff.

On another subject, how is the V 12 coming along?

Feb 23, 2012 18:20:01
gow589

Quote: "
Looks GREAT Gary. Lots of creative stuff.

On another subject, how is the V 12 coming along?
"



How many would you like?




Feb 24, 2012 09:53:46
1744

Gary, what is the application. I see a Tremec 5 speed.

Feb 24, 2012 10:00:56
gow589

He sells them. Any application you want; Boat, Cab over, 34 Ford,....

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