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Feb 03, 2012 05:28:09
bigtimemark

OK here's the deal........I've determined through testing that the brake light swicth is bad. (leads together=brake lights go on)

I tried to remove the switch from the union mounted on wheel well.
IT WON"T BUDGE!!
Is it reverse threads?? lol

I hit it with PB Blaster last night and I am afraid if I use any more "muscle" I will tear the complete union out of the wheel well!!!!

Also, when and IF I get the darn thing out, do I need to bleed brakes??

Any suggestions on removal????

Feb 03, 2012 06:08:11
Lee

It's normal RH threads. Put a big adjustable wrench on branch of the union for support. No brake bleeding required if you replace it.





Feb 03, 2012 06:41:17
bigtimemark

Thanks Lee!

Outstanding that I don't have to bleed brakes!!!
Now if I can get another wrench in there........not much room :( "make it work as they say.

Feb 03, 2012 06:55:30
pcadogan

Maybe count the threads so you know how far to screw the new one on up

Feb 03, 2012 13:52:53
rggavmge

The replacements are crap. I bought one from Ron Francis wiring. It cost more but is good for many more cycles and is much more sensitive....20 psi verses 80 psi for original.

Ron Francis brake switch

Feb 03, 2012 20:22:22
ddubois

Ron Francis Wiring http://www.ronfrancis.com/ Switch P/N SW-32. The other alternative is to make and install a Relay/arc suppression circuit when using a switch from Moss or NAPA. For information on making or purchasing a relay/arc suppression circuit, see the article, Brake Light Relay in the Other Tech Articles section of my web site, linked in my signature block below.

Not necessary to count the threads of the switch, it is a tapered thread and will tighten to a fluid seal as it is tightened. It is also not necessary to have it a fixed depth to operate properly.
Cheers,

Feb 03, 2012 20:28:57
bigtimemark

Quote: "
Ron Francis Wiring http://www.ronfrancis.com/ Switch P/N SW-32. The other alternative is to make and install a Relay/arc suppression circuit when using a switch from Moss or NAPA. For information on making or purchasing a relay/arc suppression circuit, see the article, Brake Light Relay in the Other Tech Articles section of my web site, linked in my signature block below.

Not necessary to count the threads of the switch, it is a tapered thread and will tighten to a fluid seal as it is tightened. It is also not necessary to have it a fixed depth to operate properly.
Cheers,
"


I was wondering if replacements were any good. The one that is in there sez Made in USA.
I'll look at the link you were so kind to provide.
I hope I get a chance to help others as so many people on here have taken the time to help me!!!
Thnx a million!
Mark

Feb 03, 2012 21:26:19
Jim Lema

I had a replacement switch go out in about a year. Bought a Ron Francis switch and it has worked great for the past 2 years. The switch is more sensitive and you don't have to push as hard on the brakes to have the lights on.

Feb 04, 2012 11:23:38
ozieagle

Hi,

Check out my article, on a different way to turn the lights on, without having to remove the existing switch.

http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/saga19.htm

Herb

Feb 07, 2012 07:15:36
bigtimemark

Quote: "
Hi,

Check out my article, on a different way to turn the lights on, without having to remove the existing switch.

http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/saga19.htm

Herb
"


So then what happens to the leads on the old brake light switch? Put them together and open the circuit at the micro switch?

Feb 07, 2012 14:09:01
RAY 67 TOURER

You'd run the wires, going to the original switch, to the micro switch. The new micro switch will close the circuit and turn on your brake lights using pedal travel versus the hydraulic pressure of the stock switch. RAY

Feb 07, 2012 20:39:04
bigtimemark

Got it.
Thanks Ray!

Feb 08, 2012 03:57:05
NOHOME

Go to NAPA anf get one from a Volve or any other cross reference. I do not know why, but the ones MOSS sells are only good for one season. I blame it on the silicone fluid, but have never looked into it. 6 years and counting with the NAPA part.

Feb 08, 2012 05:22:17
JackMG

I had problems with the switches I was getting failing in about a year or less - not the hydraulic type, the ones for the pedal linkage on the late models. They were Lucas, and when I took a couple of them apart, the little spring had very light pressure and the switch was built with no "wiping" action - just straight contact; hence, a charred spot formed on the little arm between contacts. Buff them off and they lasted as long as a new one. Finally, I just added a relay and have had no further problems for a few years now.

Feb 09, 2012 18:58:18
bigtimemark

Quote: "
I had a replacement switch go out in about a year. Bought a Ron Francis switch and it has worked great for the past 2 years. The switch is more sensitive and you don't have to push as hard on the brakes to have the lights on.
"


Yowzer!!!Got the Ron Francis switch today, made nice soldered connections on the spade tips, primered the switch with a little bit of DOT 3, installed switch, slipped on connector provided and I HAVE BRAKE LIGHTS!!
Thanks to all for the help. I might do the micro-switch when this switch stops working, but now onto the next little issue.....too many to list.

I'm having fun and that's all that matters. LOL
Mark

Feb 10, 2012 12:58:23
RAY 67 TOURER

My '67B still has the original switch and it continues to work just fine. Maybe I'm just lucky. RAY

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