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http://www.ecorazzi.com/2009/02/12/woodstock-fas-exclusive-janeane-garofalo-preaches-obama-palin-and-bacon/#more-13424
E: What are three things you’d like to really see Obama change in this country?
JG: I’d like to see him be a proud liberal and say it. You know what I mean? There’s no shame in being a liberal – it’s something to be very proud of. He should say it – cause he is one – and he should be proud to be one. And since it is clear and has been clear since Reagan that the republicans, the “conservatives” will NEVER play ball…NEVER…fu%$ um.
Their policies have destroyed us and most of the world – that’s a fact not an opinion. Their policies of deregulation, pre-emptive strikes, unmitigated support for Israel to the detriment of the Israelis, Palestinian’s, Americans, the British. Every single policy that “conservative republicans” have put forth since Reagan has destroyed us. And we affect most of the world, so why do they still get a say? That’s what blows my mind. It’s almost like self-flagellation or masochism in some way. We keep going to that portion. They are NEVER going to compromise. The thing is that the more you give in to something like that, the more they take advantage.
The reason a person is a conservative republican is because something is wrong with them. Again, that’s science – that’s neuroscience. You cannot be well adjusted, open-minded, pluralistic, enlightened and be a republican. It’s counter-intuitive. And they revel in their anti-intellectualism. They revel in their cruelty.
I don’t know if you heard me talking to Jenny a while ago, but I was saying that first you have to be an asshole and then comes the conservatism. You gotta be a dick to cleave onto their ideology.
E: This might be an appropriate time to segue into Sarah Palin. I would love to know what you think about Palin.
JG: Probably what most people think about Sarah Palin. She’s small-minded and mean-spirited. It has nothing to do with gender — I don’t give a shit about her gender — she is what the Republican Party has become: obstructionist, contrarians, small-minded, all of these things. She just happens to be attractive. There’s definitely something wrong with her. She’s lacking in so many areas. Of course she’s successful with a segment of the country because she represents that lesser segment of the country. It’s people’s lesser nature – their human frailty. You know whatever’s wrong with them is what she is about.
E: I think it’s safe to say she’s done some pretty nutty things.
JG: It’s not even nutty. It really is neuroscience. I truly believe that it has something to do with their limbic brain. I really believe that some people’s limbic brain dominates more than others. Our limbic brain controls all our emotions and it causes us to be irrational. Our limbic brain goes into action when we’re ecstatic, frightened, when we’re having sex. I really believe that if a neuroscientist examined the brain of somebody who identified as a conservative, they would find it’s wired differently.
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Shades of "Dr" Savage, who believes liberalism is a mental disorder. It Garafolo and Savage that are the nutcases. "And that's a fact"
Thank God we have the Constitution and the Bill of Rights as well as those willing to defend our freedoms.
I'm glad she is not a member of my family.
showroomgarage Wrote:
Michael Savage is truly a nut case.
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I'd like to throw the two of them in the cage and let's see who comes out alive....
AzMarc Wrote:
Thank God we have the Constitution and the Bill of Rights as well as those willing to defend our freedoms.
I'm glad she is not a member of my family.
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I wouldn't feel too secure. The Congress and Senate are about to pass legislation giving the District of Columbia voting rights in Congress and possibly two Senate seats, both prohibited by the Constitution.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/12/voting-rights-for-dc-advances-in-senate/
So much for the Constitution.
Jerry Wrote:
com on now be nice....judeo/christian thoughts now....
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No Spin here.........
She is a entertainer,who cares what her political views or opinions are. Some time ago i saw Frankie Vali and the four seasons in Alantic City. At some point during the show he talked about what a great contry we are,how know matter how much we disagree on politics we still have to be united. i cant remember the rest but in those few minutes it was moving. No political statements no knocking anyone,no using his status as a great performer to shove his agenda down our throats while we paid to see him,just a love and respect for America and the opertunities the country had given him
I was sad to see Janeane on "24" this season. I was never a fan of hers and 24 is a great show.
ummmm. i am sorry, who is jeanine garfabalo and who is eric savage? and what is 24? should i know about this? seriously, i have no clue about any of these things. is this about one of those avant garde, counter culture tv networks on hd cable?
Every once in awhile I hear Savage on the radio. I am more put off by his personality than his message. He is a little shrill for my tastes and I can't listen long. However as to his facts and arguments he is far more accurate for his position than Garafalo is to hers. And he can put together a sentence without swearing or using profanity.
He is significantly more educated and holds a PH'd from UC Berkley not a slouch school.
Had she been born in, say Syria, or Iraq, no doubt she would strap on a dynamite vest and blow up a day care facility. She is an intolerant jerk.
C'mon Richard... he's an absolute nutjob! As is the hysterical Garafolo. Two sides of the same coin; extreme intolerance.
This line cracks me up...and demonstrates her lack of ability to think:
"unmitigated support for Israel to the detriment of the Israelis"
I do understand the point she is trying to make...I just think it is funny. She sounds like she thinks she is really smart, and has some great insight into truth and what conservatives are all about...yet almost ALL of her comments demonstrate that she is good for only one thing...reading lines that somebody wrote for her, while being carefully directed in HOW to say them.
"I'm done with you b*&^%c...you're money's on the table."
Tony,
Your new avatar is an all time low... congratulations on your outstanding achievement! It puts the cat carrier to shame.
Steve
Mike,
She’s an entertainer… you want liberal thought and commentary then quote a leading THINKER like Aristotle, Spinoza, Locke or current commentators like Frank Rich, Paul Krugman, Nick Kristof or E.J. Dionne… not an entertainer!
As a liberal I would never quote Dennis Miller as the source of political commentary, political humor maybe, but not thought or commentary.
Why are conservatives the only people who seem to care what people like Garafalo say… do you only feel safe when you quote the least intellectual expression of liberalism?
Steve...I was thinking about your last question...I don't think most conservatives really care too much what entertainers say. I think it has more to do with how these kind of comments are typically the only ones that become news stories. Major news outlets find it somehow relevant enough to actually publish the thoughts/comments of these people. We hear the perspectives of liberal (rather than conservative) entertainers (you can't swing a cat in the industry without smacking one of those in the head), but rarely hear the perspectives of conservative entertainers. It is a percentage game, I know...and it really isn't relevant what ANY of the entertainers have to say...at least it is no more relevant than what you or I would say.
So...perhaps it is simply commenting on what is regularly presented in our society. I think it is also important to recognize that WAY TOO MANY average citizens in our country consciously or unconsciously adopt the perspective of their favorite entertainer(s). There are many well-informed people on this board, but I think we can be sure that a large percentage of our voting citizens develop their political perspective from a very limited (and heavily skewed) set of sources.
Kind of pathetic, I know...but therein lies the extent to which I care about what these people say...they DO unfortunately have an impact.
Tony
I am not a conservative or a Republican, so don't make assumptions. If someone on the far right says something this stupid, I'll post it as well. I understand that she is part of a very vocal minority but that minority is among your Liberal ranks so you had better get used to her and her Hollywood pals being thrown in your face. I find it amusing that the Democratic Party tries to distance itself from folks like her but they sure as hell don't turn down the millions raised at thier fundraisers. My whole point in posting her comments were to illustrate the elitist attitude she displays.
Do you mean conservative entertainers are not listened to? Tell that to Charlton Heston, Ronald Regan, Sonny Bono, Fred Thompson, Fred Grundy, Olympia Snow.
Add Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly to that list. They were never in elective office. Neither was Mr. Heston to my knowledge.
But I think all were listened to and some still are.
GT caretaker Wrote:
Steve...I was thinking about your last question...I don't think most conservatives really care too much what entertainers say. I think it has more to do with how these kind of comments are typically the only ones that become news stories. Major news outlets find it somehow relevant enough to actually publish the thoughts/comments of these people. We hear the perspectives of liberal (rather than conservative) entertainers (you can't swing a cat in the industry without smacking one of those in the head), but rarely hear the perspectives of conservative entertainers. It is a percentage game, I know...and it really isn't relevant what ANY of the entertainers have to say...at least it is no more relevant than what you or I would say.
So...perhaps it is simply commenting on what is regularly presented in our society. I think it is also important to recognize that WAY TOO MANY average citizens in our country consciously or unconsciously adopt the perspective of their favorite entertainer(s). There are many well-informed people on this board, but I think we can be sure that a large percentage of our voting citizens develop their political perspective from a very limited (and heavily skewed) set of sources.
Kind of pathetic, I know...but therein lies the extent to which I care about what these people say...they DO unfortunately have an impact.
Tony
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Tony,
First things first... change that avatar! It's just too... kinky!
I agree that there are vast segments of our population that simply listen to their favorite source (be it Garafalo or Rush) and fail to do any critical thinking.
As far as how wierd the thought is... I really don't see much difference between Garafalo and Rush... they both seem to take the outside line.
No one really wants to listen to the considered thoughts of people like George Will or EJ Dionne because it requires a little intellectual energy. Most would rather listen to the flame throwers and just say; "Yea"... end of effort.
Now, change that towel hook avatar back to the girl running avatart would you!?
Steve
Steve64B Wrote:
She’s an entertainer… Why are conservatives the only people who seem to care what people like Garafalo say… do you only feel safe when you quote the least intellectual expression of liberalism?
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I would agree with you if this were Madonna, Tim Robbins or Cher or some other limousine liberals with more money than sense. But Garafalo is a vterean of that failed Air America venture that was suppose to provide progressives with correct group-think dogma.
So basically, she is Rush Limbaugh without the intellect, audience or sucess (and I am not a Ruch fan...don't listen to him).
bottom line...she put herself out there as a political spokesperson...she's fair game.
JNickell Wrote:
Steve64B Wrote:Quote:
She’s an entertainer… Why are conservatives the only people who seem to care what people like Garafalo say… do you only feel safe when you quote the least intellectual expression of liberalism?
I would agree with you if this were Madonna, Tim Robbins or Cher or some other limousine liberals with more money than sense. But Garafalo is a vterean of that failed Air America venture that was suppose to provide progressives with correct group-think dogma.
So basically, she is Rush Limbaugh without the intellect, audience or sucess (and I am not a Ruch fan...don't listen to him).
bottom line...she put herself out there as a political spokesperson...she's fair game.
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Hi Jay
A soap box doesn't make one a source.
There isn't a liberal who would post the musings of say David Duke as main stream conservative thought... why is it that conservatives love to only post the musings of someone like Garafalo as a liberal thought leader?
I still believe that these posts are just cheap shots that allows the poster to feel safe while taking a shot.
So if Air America was the source of liberal group think dogma... does that make Rush, Sean and BillO the source of conservative group think dogma?
Steve64B Wrote:
... why is it that conservatives love to only post the musings of someone like Garafalo as a liberal thought leader?
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C'mon Steve, we've adopted her as your leader. ;-)
So if Air America was the source of liberal group think dogma... does that make Rush, Sean and BillO the source of conservative group think dogma?
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Sounds about right to me...pun intended.
JNickell Wrote:
C'mon Steve, we've adopted her as your leader. ;-)
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Jay... you have an outstanding sense of humor! Now... bring it inside before it catches a cold.
Steve
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