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Feb 10, 2009 19:43:49
B.D.

I think that's what it's about. It's kind of hard to concentrate....


http://tinyurl.com/cm5j2o

Feb 10, 2009 19:49:17
Derek up North

I think all cars and trucks should have signal scramblers installed by law.

Edit. We've already got a ban on handheld cell phones. $154 plus 3 points. I assume that would include texting. Of course, you see lots of idiots still driving while holding a phone!





Feb 10, 2009 19:50:45
JMoore

nice lingere! lol

Feb 10, 2009 20:03:03
AzMarc

Not sure if this is due to texting but I have my suspicions. I work closely with the father and will be going to the wake on Friday......This tears me up.

http://www.azcentral.com/12news/news/articles/2009/02/09/20090209gl-accident0209-ON-CP.html

Feb 10, 2009 20:23:17
B.D.

Then again, there is the contingent that actively is working to ban all two-way electronics while driving here in NC. This would include texting, cell phones (including hands-free), Citizen's Band, FRS, MURS, and amateur radios, and probably anything else they can think of.

I'm not sure they can regulate amateur and CB radio, as they are federally regulated, but they'll try to find some way around that, if history is any indicator.

Feb 10, 2009 22:50:09
S. Duerr

Last Thursday, on my way to work, I almost hit a woman who ran a red light while talking on her cell phone. Litterly, I was thinking, "Where am I going to hit her--center or left rear?" Had I been in my Yukon instead of my B I would have hit her. She had no clue I was there--I know because I was right on her bumper and could see her in her mirror. This isn't the first time I've had a near miss because someone else was taliing/texting while driving. I support bans on texting and cell phone use--I have a family and don't want to be taken from them because someone had a conversation that was more important than safety.

Feb 11, 2009 02:14:12
twigworker

First it was S-E-X. Then it was booze. Next came beer. Lately it was pot. What next? LOL

I am all for it actually. If you think that talking on the phone is a driver distraction, I can't image what it would be like to drive and text at the same time.

IMHO as a part of any accident investigation they should check for any cell phones in the car and run a check on when they were in use. If they were in use during the time of the accident that driver would be at fault, no ifs, ands, or buts.

Sort of my feelings on helmets for bike riders, powered and motor. If there is an injury in an accident involving a bike and there are head injuries, the helmetless rider is responsible for any head trauma or related problems. That way the "responsible, free spirited, rights conscious rider" can make the decision for himself before he gets on his bike and a motorist won't be held liable for another person's poor decision making.

Old saying: If you have a $10 head wear a $10 helmet. If your head is worthless don't wear a helmet at all.

Jack

Feb 11, 2009 03:01:21
Shinsen774

Folks, my hometown is Wilmington, North Carolina. Listen to how those people talk. NONE of them are from Wilimngton, North Carolina. We'd like for all of them to leave at once and leave us alone, except the one with the pink bra.

Feb 11, 2009 04:32:13
GT caretaker

twigworker Wrote:

Quote: "

IMHO as a part of any accident investigation they should check for any cell phones in the car and run a check on when they were in use. If they were in use during the time of the accident that driver would be at fault, no ifs, ands, or buts.

"




The problem with that idea and texting is that there is no interaction with the cell tower (e.g., transmitting message) until you hit "send." This is different than when talking, obviously.



I had a woman pull right in front of me from McD's parking lot...and I was in the PASSING lane...so she pulled through two lanes of traffic without noticing my bright orange car. Yup...on her cell phone. I was barely able to miss her (veering left).

The terribly moronic thing was that she never dropped her phone through the whole ordeal...screeching tires, other cars stopping...her stuck in the middle, blocking two lanes...she just kept that phone to her ear the whole time. I guess that was a REALLY important call.

Folks...we are surrounded by people who act like morons while driving.

Feb 11, 2009 04:46:23
InfantryYJ

Honestly, I wished I would have acquired one of the cell phone scramblers while I was in Iraq. I can't recall the distance it scrambles them, but they attach them to all the vehicles so that it will scramble the signal to a command detonated IED that goes off with a cell phone.

Illegal here in the States, but, who would know/find out?

One thing I noticed while in Japan, if the Japanese get a call on their cell, they'll damn near cause an accident pulling over to the side of the road to stop and talk,.....it's kinda funny, makes you pay attention to them.

Feb 11, 2009 05:52:25
twigworker

Okay folks, here are a couple of sites that advertise what seems to be the trick. I don't know what I am reading when I see the description though. Does anyone understand this stuff, and if you do please make some suggestions.

Also, just Google cell phone jammer and you get a tone of sites.

Jack

http://www.discount-blockers.com/

http://www.cellantenna.com/CJAM/cjam.htm?gclid=CLfS_MHQ1JgCFQ0vQgodD3oz4Q

http://elliottback.com/wp/cheap-cellphone-jammer/

http://www.thesignaljammer.com/

Feb 11, 2009 05:57:19
twigworker

...duplicate post...sorry

Feb 11, 2009 06:14:57
Derek up North

Well, I'm not techno-geek, but $230 to (hopefully) scramble cellular signals within 25 meters is pretty expensive. I guess that's far enough to cover a whole restaurant. But can you imagine how dangerously a cellular addicted driver would be if their phone suddenly went haywire? And all within 25 meters of where you are? Yikes!!

http://www.discount-blockers.com/114.html

Feb 11, 2009 06:25:00
tfisher7621

Drivers and cell phones don't mix - period! That goes for talking OR texting.

The only time a driver should be allowed on his/her phone is if there is an emergency. And then, they can pull over to the side of the road and do their thing. But, under NO CIRCUMSTANCE, should a driver be allowed to be driving in trafic and operating a cell phone in any capacity. :thumbdown:

Feb 11, 2009 07:18:48
bughut

After not driving my CGT for some time...I pulled it out, checked it over and washed it. I warmed it up and went to lunch and on the way back had to panic stop it...nearly whacking a high curb..because some young girl was engrossed in what looked like a text message. When she finally noticed me she threw up her hads and yelled at me...like" what the H@#$ is wrong with you??" If I had been in my wifes big bright red 4wd. Durango I doubt she would have seen me...until I had run her rice racer over.

Feb 11, 2009 07:31:57
Dwight

Here in Minnesota, I have a friend, a state senator who is very conservative, and is authoring a bill to punish cell phone callers/texters who DO have an accident.

The problem is WE should know better, than to call or text whilst driving.

[notice the whilst?] LOL

If drivers are so distacted calling or texting that they have a wreck or even just slow down in the left lane, they should be ticketed.



Feb 11, 2009 08:21:50
Gerry

"Here in Minnesota, I have a friend, a state senator who is very conservative, and is authoring a bill to punish cell phone callers/texters who DO have an accident. "

But how would anyone know? If the police did not witness it driver using a cell phone AND the wreck it would be one person's word against another's as to who was the cause

Feb 11, 2009 08:44:48
dcdci

Gerry Wrote:

Quote: "
But how would anyone know? If the police did not witness it driver using a cell phone AND the wreck it would be one person's word against another's as to who was the cause
"


I guess they could check the records of the driver's cell phones to determine if the phone wqs being used at the time of the accident.

Feb 11, 2009 08:56:28
jgm

Studies in driving simulators have shown that drivers who talk on cell phones- with or without a bluetooth devise- perform worse than people with blood alcohol levels of 0.8%.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-6090342-7.html

In North Carolina, it is illegal to drive with a BAC of 0.08% or higher.



Feb 11, 2009 10:52:30
Gerry

dcdci Wrote:

Quote: "
Gerry Wrote:Quote:
But how would anyone know? If the police did not witness it driver using a cell phone AND the wreck it would be one person's word against another's as to who was the cause
I guess they could check the records of the driver's cell phones to determine if the phone wqs being used at the time of the accident.
"


But how much proof would that be? You could use my phone while I'm driving or me yours. Imagine having to check every driver's records at the scene of an accident and determine if a driver was using the phone at the exact second of the accident. Are times accurate enough to distinguish the difference if a person calls Daddy 30 seconds after an accident?

I don't have the answer, but I can say that my wife has been in four accidents and in all four cases the other person, the person in the wrong, always a woman, BTW, was talking on their cell phones at the time of an accident. Police don't even ask because they know the driver will not always tell the truth. I've been hit in the back three times as well by someone yaking away and not seeing me stopped at a redlight.

Laws will not stop any of this because our society as a whole does not see anything wrong with using a cell while driving, just as an increasing number of drivers do not see anything wrong with tailgating, running red lights and passing on the shoulder. The problem is that we, are becoming more and more "me" orientated at the cost of manners, ethics and civility

Feb 11, 2009 11:58:50
brownsgolf

I'm sorry, but I see people reading newspapers and other documents while driving, what do we do if they get in an accident? I have seen people with a laptop open and checking their email with a wireless internet card while driving. If these are not all banned in some way then there should be nothing banned. IMO.

Feb 11, 2009 13:11:12
Gerry

How about bad attitudes? Should we ban people with bad attitudes from driving?

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