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Apr 24, 2007 19:24:18
KLUTZ

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1964-MGB-Convertible-Brand-New-Restoration_W0QQitemZ230119338502QQihZ013QQcategoryZ31857QQtcZphotoQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


What a fantastic interior. Absolutely love it.

Apr 24, 2007 19:27:12
twigworker

Sam? Marc? Are you payng attention?

jack





Apr 24, 2007 19:29:59
blue64

Not mine but well done!

Apr 24, 2007 19:34:10
lbcnut

For the effort they put into the car, they could have done a nicer job with the underside. Like removing the front spring hanger bolts before painting the bottom? Or actually painting the battery boxes too?

Apr 24, 2007 19:48:19
chris

Well, they could also have put in the rest of the interior panels. Geez!

Apr 24, 2007 20:01:28
AzMarc

I gotta go see that car. So many pictures to take!!!!!!

Apr 24, 2007 20:15:04
twigworker

Marc, tell the guy that our uncle Jack back in NC could be interested if he sees enough pictures. I can't buy the thing of course but it might allow you to linger a little longer and be more specific in your photos.

jack

Apr 24, 2007 22:58:07
AzMarc

I just spent the evening printing each image on high quality photo paper. I also sent the seller an email asking to see the car. I am finding it difficult to find anything that doesn't seem original...perhaps the metal tie down for the spare?

Paul and others,
Are there any particular areas that I should concentrate on taking good close up pics of? I am interested to see how the metal tubes that go from each carb are bent. It looks like they attach via a piece of hose, like mine do....

Any critiques of this car are GREATLY appreciated as I think I will try and emulate as much as possible.
Thanks in advance,

Apr 25, 2007 04:38:10
KLUTZ

Why not just bid on it to win, and bring it home Marc?

:)

Easier in the long run don't you think?

Paul

Apr 25, 2007 04:44:05
RSS

Marc, it seems really decent of the guy to let you do that. All it costs him is a little time, but still - he wouldn't have been out of line to say no. That's nice. :beer:

R.

Apr 25, 2007 06:52:52
chris

Look in the passenger footwell; The dogleg panel that attaches below the heater vent is missing. I quit looking at that point.

Apr 25, 2007 07:45:28
Rich in Vancouver

That's a very nice car.
Not perfect, but verrry nice.
It would certainly cost a lot more than ten grand to get a B to that point.

Rich

Apr 25, 2007 10:58:07
Bill Taylor

My car, 26098, from later in October 63 has three bladed fan. That and as previously noted interior panel and spare hold down are not correct. Doubt if the rubber mats are present. Would not take much to cure. Why paint only one battery box? Looks like trans tunnel was not redone either.

Apr 25, 2007 11:57:03
chris

Bill, did you pull your car apart again??
Also, the rear has b een worked on as the leading of the seams is missing under the tail lights.

Apr 25, 2007 12:40:18
AzMarc

Bill Taylor Wrote:

Quote: "
My car, 26098, from later in October 63 has three bladed fan. "


It is my undersdtanding that the 6 bladed fans were left over from MGAs and were used early in production. That's what I have on my '63 which is car ~11,000

Apr 25, 2007 12:43:21
JackMG

Fantastic. Very nice car.

Apr 25, 2007 12:51:18
Bill Taylor

Marc: I stand corrected re fan.
Chris: Still have not put it back together. Seams under the light were/are not leaded on mine.

Apr 25, 2007 17:29:38
AzMarc

Now I am wondering about my car.....Can' find any seams under the light however the magnet holds very well where a seam would have been.....Clausagers has a rear pic of a '64 on page 18 and I can barely make out a seam....

Think the paint job just covered up the seam or does something look amiss?

Apr 25, 2007 17:36:33
ekafant

Marc, the early cars did not have a seam back there. The factory filled them in with lead. Later on they left the seam, I am sure for cost savings. Yes, the 6 blade fans are correct on the early cars. My B, #1105, has the original 6 bladed MGA fan. 3 bladed ones came later. It is a very nice car with just a few details to work out. Love that color!

Apr 25, 2007 17:39:33
AzMarc

Whew!!!!!

Just a few details huh? I think I need to fly you and Jack out here before it gets too hot so you guys can help me document the "Few details" I need to work out....Probably cheaper in the long run, lol

Apr 25, 2007 19:32:56
blue64

I'm not so sure about the ealiest cars having no seams under the tail lights. As far as I know, they all had 'em. Those cars without the seams likley had body work done over the years and they were filled by unknowing body shop workers. Clausagers clearly shows them on page 18. jm2c

Paul

Apr 25, 2007 19:42:15
AzMarc

blue64 Wrote:

Quote: "
I'm not so sure about the ealiest cars having no seams under the tail lights. As far as I know, they all had 'em. Those cars without the seams likley had body work done over the years and they were filled by unknowing body shop workers. Clausagers clearly shows them on page 18. jm2c
Paul
"


Only one true way to find out...I'll post pics when I sand there.....I can't find any evidence on the exterior or in the trunk where any body work had been done....I can see the original OEW paint job in the trunk...

Apr 25, 2007 20:11:32
blue64

Marc,

If the original color is OEW and the car is now red, its had bodywork. No? Or would it be safe to say, we don't know the complete history of your car therefore sanding it won't be conclusive. The 2 pieces are seamed. You can see the seam from inside the boot.

Paul

Apr 25, 2007 21:30:30
chris

6 bladed metal fans began in 68. Leaded seams were in vogue until the mid 70's I think.

Apr 25, 2007 21:35:23
chris

Or is that a trick of lighting? Somewhere it is written that later cars can be told to have had bodywork done because people filled the seams and late cars are not supposed to be filled.
All of my early cars have had lead there.
Edit: I just went back and looked at cars from 64-69 and they all had leaded seams.

Apr 25, 2007 21:50:46
AzMarc

blue64 Wrote:

Quote: "
Marc,
If the original color is OEW and the car is now red, its had bodywork. No? Or would it be safe to say, we don't know the complete history of your car therefore sanding it won't be conclusive. The 2 pieces are seamed. You can see the seam from inside the boot.
Paul
"


It is safe to say that I don't know the history of my car. I did however do some investigative work tonight and I will post a seperate thread with pics. I appreciate your help Paul.

Apr 26, 2007 04:04:53
blue64

Chris Roop--I think you might be confusing the issue. There are seams on top, rear scuttle panel--the area of the hood snaps, etc. On the early cars, they were leaded. In later year's production the seams were not filled. Common knowledge.

I beleve this digression and debate concerns the seams immediatly under the tail lights. My contention is that in every year of MGB production, those seams were not filled at the factory.

Paul

Apr 26, 2007 21:25:36
chris

My contention is that all cars have seams, and the first of them had the seams lead loaded along with the valance and the top piece in front of the trunk lid. This comes from having a lot of early cars, mid cars, and late cars run through ere with lead in said seams.
Bodyshops go for the cheap fix if they can and do not do lead work.

Apr 27, 2007 20:55:13
AzMarc

Yet no one has bid on this car yet.....I am surprised....

Apr 28, 2007 05:54:07
PaulM


Marc...It looks very good to me, the underside looks like he painted over rust or grease in a few spots.

Be sure to let us know what you thought after seeing it.

Apr 29, 2007 19:30:21
AzMarc

Well I went and saw the car today and it indeed is a very nice car. One question I had however was relative to the inner sills. They had a had a rubber covering on them.

Anyone ever heard of such a thing?

By the way, this guy had a huge collection of beautiuful cars and bikes....

Apr 29, 2007 19:36:10
lbcnut

MGBs had a ribbed rubber covering on the sills stock. A lot of times, during restorations, they are replaced by carpet.

Apr 29, 2007 19:46:25
AzMarc

lbcnut Wrote:

Quote: "
MGBs had a ribbed rubber covering on the sills stock. A lot of times, during restorations, they are replaced by carpet.
"


Wow then the guy who restored it really did know what he was doing....Can the covering still be purchased?

Apr 29, 2007 19:57:07
lbcnut

http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=29089

2nd item down. Ekafant ordered some for his car and I know he had trouble getting an adhesive to adhere well enough to them. A lot of the carpet kits these days will include sill carpets. I know that my GT's carpet set has them.

Apr 29, 2007 19:58:15
blue64

Moss $ell$ them.

Apr 29, 2007 20:00:49
AzMarc

blue64 Wrote:

Quote: "
Moss $ell$ them.
"


$83.45....You're not kidding there....Originality costs!

Apr 29, 2007 20:44:33
ekafant

You have to REALLY get them clean of any residue from the moulding process. I used lacquer thinner, followed by soap and water, followed by lacquer thinner, soap and water again, and a final rubdown with lacquer thinner. All the lacquer thinner rubdowns where with a different towel everytime. Then use the 3M Super Trim adhesive, follow the intsructions exactly on the can, and be sure they are where you want them. They will stick immediately. If you want the correct rubber mats for the floors, there is a place in Australia that has reproduced them perfectly. They are perfect, but shipping is the killer. Only place in the world that has them though.

Apr 29, 2007 21:36:59
chris

PrepSol is another way of getting the rubber sill covers and the starter cover clean enough for the glue to stick.
The Australian floormats have the correct texture and pattern but are made of a different material. superior according to the maker.

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