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Try Moss P/N 443-140. Very difficult part to find other than Moss or Anglo Parts 023-174. Orignal BMC P/N 22H251
Thanks Richard. Hopefully someone has a used one they are willing to part with.
3 synchro OD?
I know a couple folks who have been looking (and looking here) for a used one for a couple years now.
Maybe you'll be luckier than they.
At least they are not NLA from Moss.
I looked for a bit and then gave up. Moss has one for $97.
Lots of $, but it is 100% correct.
I searched around some UK sites, on the theory that OD units were more plentiful in the UK. I found one but it was in so-so condition and they wanted 50 pounds for it. It will be another year before I need to install so I am content to keep looking.
Pretty rare.
Matt
Ok, educate me. What makes this shift lever different , and harder to find, than others? How do I identify the particular characteristic you are looking for? Why are they not interchangeable? ( I have an OD transmission in my parts car, with shifter. But I plan to put it in my driver one day, so I may not be willing to sell :( )
David
something about the "ball end" and the lever is bent. So I understand. I don't have a relevant car any longer, and did not have OD when I did have an early car.
This picture says it all. It's been posted so many places I don't know who deserves the credit, but it is much appreciated.
I was looking through all my shifte levers & I have 1 early O/D shifter. Chrome looks good. P/M me for the price. Glenn 302 734 1243
That curved one is actually not a 3 syncro OD shifter. The 3 syncro OD shifter is 100% straight.
That curved one is actually not a 3 syncro OD shifter. The 3 syncro OD shifter is 100% straight.
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I don't know for sure on that. I have an original which has a similar bend to the top shifter in Peter Plouf's photo above, and I have a Moss one which is 100% straight.
Moss ones are straight, definitely. I've only had one original and it has the bend. Perhaps a PO bent it to move the shifter back a bit. I prefer using it to the straight one as the gear shift falls more naturally to hand...who knows? I don't for sure.B)-
The ones I have are bent like the top one in the photo. Bob
The ones I have are bent like the top one in the photo. Bob
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There must be two versions then, because on the early OD cars I have seen with OD, (which is 2 in the United States and several in the UK) they all have had the straight lever.
All good info. This curved lever must be very rare because Moss doesn't even show a picture, nor do the original repair manuals. There is very little documentation for that curved lever!
All good info to know!!
You have a PM!
I was looking through all my shifte levers & I have 1 early O/D shifter. Chrome looks good. P/M me for the price. Glenn 302 734 1243
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Well more digging and I came up with a bit more info. Here is a pic of a early MGB shifter, MGA, 3 main overdrive and last the 5 main early overdrive shifters. The one that was with the 3 main overdrive is pretty srtaight. The one from the early 5 main has the bend. I have no idea when the changeover happened. Bob
Wonderful! Good to know that the 3-main is the 100% or near straight shifter and the later car is the curved one.
Looks like I have the correct one on my '63! :D
So... This topic should be exhausted for another 7 or 8 months now? ;) :)-D
I agree with Royal; in almost 5 decades of experience with early MK1 MGB's I have never seen a bent O/D gear lever. Mine is straight as an arrow. The Moss unit is very functional and worth the money.
I have an overdrive in my 1967 B. I also have a brand new original O/D shifter. I installed the 3 syncro non o/d shifter because I like it the best. If you want a brand new shifter NOS, I'll give it to you. Just pay the shipping
I have an overdrive in my 1967 B. I also have a brand new original O/D shifter. I installed the 3 syncro non o/d shifter because I like it the best. If you want a brand new shifter NOS, I'll give it to you. Just pay the shipping
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You may like it the best, but it functionally is not proper. They do look vintage cool, no doubt, but please reconsider.
Some people have reported success with using this on their 3-synchro overdrive transmission, but over time it will begin causing issues as parts inside your transmission wear. At the very least, you may experience the transmission popping out of gear. At the very worst, gears will not properly and fully engage and there is a large possibility of chewing your gearbox to shreds over time.
Here's the deal:
There are two balls on all the shifters. One is what I would call the pivot ball, the larger one. This part is the same on virtually all MGA's and MGB's.
The other goes inside of the gear selector. This part also "looks" the same. BUT...
However, the distance between those two balls is different on the overdrive and non overdrive gear levers. The non-overdrive is longer and when installed with the bushing, reaches far below where the pivot point should be inside the rear gear selector.
I have installed both gear levers into the gearbox remote control, with the gearbox remote control off of the transmission and it definitely is not correct.
Just a friendly warning.
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I have an overdrive in my 1967 B. I also have a brand new original O/D shifter. I installed the 3 syncro non o/d shifter because I like it the best. If you want a brand new shifter NOS, I'll give it to you. Just pay the shipping
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You may like it the best, but it functionally is not proper. They do look vintage cool, no doubt, but please reconsider.
Some people have reported success with using this on their 3-synchro overdrive transmission, but over time it will begin causing issues as parts inside your transmission wear. At the very least, you may experience the transmission popping out of gear. At the very worst, gears will not properly and fully engage and there is a large possibility of chewing your gearbox to shreds over time.
Here's the deal:
There are two balls on all the shifters. One is what I would call the pivot ball, the larger one. This part is the same on virtually all MGA's and MGB's.
The other goes inside of the gear selector. This part also "looks" the same. BUT...
However, the distance between those two balls is different on the overdrive and non overdrive gear levers. The non-overdrive is longer and when installed with the bushing, reaches far below where the pivot point should be inside the rear gear selector.
I have installed both gear levers into the gearbox remote control, with the gearbox remote control off of the transmission and it definitely is not correct.
Just a friendly warning.
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Royal. Could you please post a link to the site or book in which you got this information? It all sounds hypothetical to me.. a lot of "What if's" but if this is documented as fact and will happen, I want to pass the information on to the new owner of the '64 before the overdrive transmission crumbles into bits before her eyes...
Thanks
Paul
Paul,
I thought of you as I was typing that, it had occurred to me you were using the kink shifter - I apologize for not giving you an alert sooner. We were good at keeping in touch through PM's but I am sorry I fell short!!!
There is no documentation that I have seen on this. This is from my own experience as I built my overdrive transmission. The kink gear lever extended down too far into the gear selector. I experimented with installing the kink gear lever into the gearbox remote, physically seeing it extend too far, before I finished building the box.
-The LH style gear lever is "almost" right, but *slightly* too long
-The kink gear lever extended at about 1/3rd an inch too far down. The problem is not from the get go, but over time as that bushing wears or possibly falls off because it is not being encompassed by the gear selector.
-The "straight" Moss shifter is just right.
I should have documented it, taken pictures and measurements, unfortunately I didn't.
I would be happy to post pictures of each of the levers and provide the measurements, and I am not trying to scare anyone, but there is definitely a functional difference between the two shifters.
Let me know if you would like close-up's and measurements. I can also take pictures of the non-OD shift tower with each lever if you would like.
Always,
Royal
He is absolutely correct,
When I was installing the kink shifter onto my B, I did notice it was about a quarter inch too long. I installed a new bushing.
If it may cause damage, I will reinstall the original shifter back into the transmission. I don't want to cause any damage
It's only been in 2 weeks and has only been driven about 20 miles
thanks for the information
I recently found my old mid 1960's Haynes MGB manual; and during my review of engine data; I saw some 3 main overdrive tear down & rebuild photos; and the gear lever is slightly cranked near the base. Seems to be that there is a difference between 62 to early 64 & late 64 to 67 gear levers. I will try to scan the photos if anyone needs them.
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