MGB: Afghanistan

Nov 05, 2009 08:37:11
Yellow68B

My wife and I just said goodbye to our US Marine as he headed back to Camp Pendleton, leaving for Khan Neshin Afghanistan on the 17th of this month. Real tough place in southern Helmand Province. Everything I have been reading about thier Rules of Engagement has thier hands pretty well tied when they need artillery or close air support. Kind of hard to win a war when they tell you not to return fire until you can positively identify your target. Oh, and the artillery and air support could damage homes so we can't do that

If you want unbiased stories about what is relly going on over there, google Captains Journal.

Bring them all back safe.

Bill Weeks
Retired USMC

Nov 05, 2009 08:38:26
wyatt

all the best to your son...........

Nov 05, 2009 08:40:48
911 Truth

Just bring them all back...

Nov 05, 2009 08:56:15
auctionwatch

Quote: "Kind of hard to win a war when they tell you not to return fire until you can positively identify your target. Oh, and the artillery and air support could damage homes so we can't do that"


Shocking. It's PC gone mad! Bring back the olden days I say, when you could safely invade a country, engage freely, and lay waste to whole villages without so much as a spanked botty...

Nov 05, 2009 08:57:57
911 Truth

[quote=auctionwatch]

Quote: "Kind of hard to win a war when they tell you not to return fire until you can positively identify your target. Oh, and the artillery and air support could damage homes so we can't do that[/quote]

Shocking. It's PC gone mad! Bring back the olden days I say, when you could safely invade a country, engage freely, and lay waste to whole villages without so much as a spanked botty..."



I am all for turning countries into glass parking lots.. its fun.. it shows how strong we are.. Let Roll.

Nov 05, 2009 09:23:08
Mick from Scotland

its why war doesn't work no more. Before there was a camera on every soliders shoulder, and someone ready to put him on trial for war crimes, war, was well, war. Witness the first and second world wars - very little 'live from the frontline' media action. Lots of terrible things happened. It was war. Then, we learned about what a terrible thing war is. Then Vietnam was on TV. I am not defending the actions of people who burn down villages, but if you can accept war is reasonable and justifed, then in the context of war, anything goes. I have never understood the difference between killing a man with a rifle being okay in war, but burning him down in his house with gasoline and a lighter is not. Dead is dead, the route to getting there in a war is semantics. If TV footage existed, do you think we would have found the burning out of Dresden acceptable, the deaths of innocent folks something that we could handle? Its why we are in the place we are - if we were not so squeamish about 'war', then afganistan would have been leveled into the biggest car park ever after the first month - look at the military might of the USA, versus the Taliban - no contest. But because we want a nice war, we fart about, letting our soldiers die in the process.
Now, this may sound like I am a blood thirsty, geneva convention-baiting maniac. I'm not. In fact, this is the reason I believe that this war, that in Iraq, and any other is not the way forward. Unless we are prepared to kill indiscriminately, and unless we are civilians are prepared to sanction this, then we are guilty of sending highly trained personnel out there, and as said, tying their hands behind their back. War does not work in the world of media footage, it puts the reality of war in civilian faces, we baulk, and then fanny around with a diluted version. Hence bogged down yet again in a country, fighting a half-assed war that we are not sure of the reasons behind. So, whilst I am anti-war, I am not anti-military personnel - they are doing the job they are expert at, but the politicians should have realised that unless they accept total war, then they have sent them out there incorrectly and should recall them.
Mr. Weeks, I sincerely wish all the best of luck to your son for a safe tour and a safe return.

Nov 05, 2009 09:47:52
John Hamilton

Mick,

Very well stated, I agree completely.

Semper Fi

Nov 05, 2009 09:52:51
blues

Mick,
I also , strongly agree,.
very good,.

Nov 05, 2009 12:31:17
kirks-auto

Bill
My best too for you son. x2 the "new rules" not to mention a Commander and Chief unable to make a decision while you son and his buds lay down their lives daily. Regardless of the less supportive and their sarcasim, either let them do their job or get them out.

Nov 05, 2009 15:17:10
m65gb

Well said Mike, and I agree 100%.

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