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Sep 05, 2010 16:18:00
ShickenChit

I found these things in a box of a few parts my machine shop returned to me after doing a magnuflux, hot tank and valve job on my head. I'm not sure what they are. There are four of them. Looking through the Moss catalog, they look like a part called "air injection tubes" with further confirmation being that Moss says four are needed. Is that what these are? Where do they go? Perhaps they are supposed to be inserted into the holes in the head by the spark plugs that the air injection manifold screws into. Neither Haynes nor the Bentley manual mention these things when talking about the air rail manifold, so I'm not sure.

So it may be some emissions stuff. This is a 1977, registered in CA so subject to emissions. Lots of the emissions system has been modified, so a little hard to match up what I have against what is documented in any manual.

Now that I'm nearly done with my engine rebuild (going on eight months...) I'm at the proverbial issue of "I've got everything put back together but have four sparts that I never installed and don't know where they go. Hmm..."

Sep 05, 2010 16:20:10
gooser

looks like them.





Sep 05, 2010 16:22:06
ShickenChit

Quote: "
looks like them."


Where do they go?

Sep 05, 2010 16:25:08
gooser

in the cylinder head. unless you're running an air pump leave em out.

Sep 05, 2010 16:31:01
ShickenChit

Quote: "
in the cylinder head. unless you're running an air pump leave em out."

Where are they supposed to go in the cylinder head?

I do have an air pump. They were present along with the air pump prior to having the head work done, at which point the machine shop removed them. Maybe it was never correct for them to have been there in the first place. I never noticed them when I delivered the head to the machine shop.

You are my Danville alter-ego on the other side of the continent!

Sep 05, 2010 16:58:25
The Wiz

Quote: "
Perhaps they are supposed to be inserted into the holes in the head by the spark plugs that the air injection manifold screws into. "


That's correct, if you're running the emissions set-up put them back in.

Sep 05, 2010 17:28:56
losmorob

Yeah, they shouldn't of took them out.

Sep 05, 2010 17:40:37
RSS

Quote: "
Yeah, they shouldn't of took them out."


So, what do they do? Yeah, and before anybody says, "Inject air," I've already figured that out. :D

Seriously, what function do they serve? What would be the difference running with or without them with his smog stuff installed?

Sep 05, 2010 18:30:00
gooser

they direct air in the correct place when running an air pump. i agree that they should'nt have been taken out. they're pressed in the hole from the outside where the air rails screw in. i'd put them back in if you use use your air pump, leave em out if you're not. when installed they should stick out about a quarter of an inch in the port side of the head.

Sep 05, 2010 18:35:28
ingoldsb

The air injector system adds air to the exhaust - right after the exhaust valve - in the hope that any remaining unburned hydrocarbons will finish combusting.

If they are not there, then the air doesn't really get properly inserted into the exhaust flow and I doubt that they will help your emissions much. So, if you use the air pump, put them back in.

If you do not use the air pump, then they should not be reinserted because they impeded the exhaust flow (a little bit).

I am of the opinion that the machine shop did correctly in removing them. They cannot be removed with the head on the car (or even with the valves in the head), but they can be reinserted with the head in place. So, if you were using the air pump it is easy for you to put them back. If you were not, then you don't have to remove the exhaust valves and fool around with a pin punch trying to drive them back out. They made the choice that would be right for either situation.

Sep 06, 2010 08:22:02
ClayJ

Have you determined if your air-pump is working? That would be part of the situation in passing the inspection.

Maybe someone with CA emissions experience will chime-in.

Sep 06, 2010 10:24:11
AndyT

Here is a picture of the air injection pipe in the valve seat area of the cylinder head.

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