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Nov 14, 2009 06:31:08
blackmgb

I need to add weight to my car for December's VDCA event.

The local diving shop never called me back. I wanted to work with something soft. Anyone have a good source or suggestion for the weight I need - about 100#.

Nov 14, 2009 07:57:21
John Hamilton

Try another diving shop, there's lots of those around here that would love to sell stuff. What is our target weight? I had mine weighed at the last CVAR race and I came in at 1875-1880 lbs.

If you can find a hospital that is scrapping x-ray equipment, they have hundreds of pounds of lead counterweights in the table.





Nov 14, 2009 08:13:52
lars49

I don't know how much you're willing to spend, but ammo reloading houses carry lead shot such as this one: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=147010

Nov 14, 2009 08:40:24
BritishV8

Reclaimed (used) lead shot is cheaper than new... but I believe I'd rather bolt down an ingot. This company sells both, and more:
http://www.rotometals.com/Lead-Products-s/20.htm

Nov 14, 2009 09:31:27
blackmgb

Quote: "
Try another diving shop, there's lots of those around here that would love to sell stuff. What is our target weight? I had mine weighed at the last CVAR race and I came in at 1875-1880 lbs.

If you can find a hospital that is scrapping x-ray equipment, they have hundreds of pounds of lead counterweights in the table."


1900# is the rule book weight. I'm in a small town now. Surprised we even have one dive shop. I may search on line.

Nov 14, 2009 10:28:58
NLJ

What about going to a tire shop and getting a bucket of the take offs from balancing tires? Respectfully submitted Norman L Jacob

Nov 14, 2009 10:36:46
RedLine

Fred,
Don't worry too much about the weight. They don't usually have scales at Savannah. And as long as you aren't runnimg 'glass panels , with a frame that resembles swiss cheese, they most likely won't even ask.

But if you want some, I've got some 25 lbs or so of lead weight we took off one of the parts carts at work (why anyone would ADD 25 lbs to a cart is beyond me). I brought it home in case I had problems making weight. The issue never reared it ugly head, as the car came in at 1925 +

I'll throw it in the truck and bring it to you at Savannah, if you want

Rick

Nov 14, 2009 14:26:57
blackmgb

Thanks Rick. I'm pretty close, maybe off 25 pounds or so. Thought about taking weight with me and adding after getting an official weight. But sounds like that won't happen if they don't have scales.

Nov 14, 2009 17:52:33
roadster65

Quote: "
... I'm pretty close, maybe off 25 pounds or so ..."


How much weight in a full tank of fuel ! B)

Nov 14, 2009 18:05:23
skippymga

Fred... you could start a high carb diet, lots of cold beer and for get about the ballast. 8^)
kidding. s

Nov 14, 2009 18:06:10
skippymga

And how much does your car weigh?

Nov 15, 2009 03:37:35
magnette1

Just have a feed of fish and chips followed by Ke.t..y fried chick. That should solve the problem

Nov 15, 2009 05:04:55
Speedracer

Fred's sounds like you need a fatter driver :)

Nov 15, 2009 05:37:42
blackmgb

I'm doing my part to add ballast on the driver's side, but the weight is measured without driver. So, the only weight advantage any of us has is to lose it via less cupcakes and pizza.

Nov 15, 2009 06:54:48
Bubba

Fred,
They actually do have a working scale you can use free of charge at Roebling. I have never seen anyone having to get on the scale as part of tech. So, as Rick said, I don't believe you have to worry about it too much.

Nov 15, 2009 10:30:02
roadster65

Quote: "
I'm doing my part to add ballast on the driver's side, "



Well; I can hear it being said now .... Honey; does my arse look fat in this car !

Nov 16, 2009 07:23:21
blackmgb

Quote: "
[quote=blackmgb]
I'm doing my part to add ballast on the driver's side, "



Well; I can hear it being said now .... Honey; does my arse look fat in this car ![/quote]

Even worse, my seat is fairly narrow, "Honey, I don't fit in my seat."

Nov 16, 2009 12:31:10
blackmgb

Quote: "
Fred's sounds like you need a fatter driver :)"


You'll appreciate this ... you are too competitive.

Nov 16, 2009 15:52:53
HeathRacing

Fred
You might go to a local gokart shop and see what they have. We used to have to buy lead for my kart when I was racing them. The weights come predrilled and ready to mounted. Might be a bit expensive though, just a thought.

Stirling

Nov 16, 2009 16:50:12
200mph

Hi Fred,

There are a lot of oval tracks (mostly dirt) in your part of the country, so there must be a speed shop that services those racers not too far away. They can steer you in the right direction.

Nov 17, 2009 07:20:32
wryte1

Try www.speedwaymotors.com mike

Nov 17, 2009 10:26:05
Bill Ball

Fred if your feeling crafty or brave, I should have some lead ingots, if you wanted you could melt them into whatever shape you need. And if I am out of lead I can get more.

But I prefer the who cares approach, myself.

Bill

Nov 20, 2009 16:42:11
Fieldbuilder

I'm with Norman on this one.

I used to go by the tire shop and they were happy to give me the lead weights they took off the cars.
They have buckets full of them.
I would melt them down and make bullets for my black powder guns.

I would also get fine sand. Wet it down. Make a 'mold' in the wet sand. Melt the lead in a cast iron pot
over a gas camping stove. Niddle nose pliers to remove the steel clips. Poar the lead into 'ingot molds'.
Then next year I would have more lead shot.

You know me........a scrounger

Nov 20, 2009 18:38:25
Bill Ball

A small steel pan makes a cleaner mold than sand, find one with the side that have some angle to them it will slide out ofter it cools. Put something in the middle of the pane to give you a bolt hole, when your done.

A wood stick will let you scrape off the top, as the impurities float up, you can scrape them off so when your weight cools the top is smooth.

Do it outside, dont over heat the lead, doesnt matter how long it takes to melt so dont try to rush it and overheat the metal cause thats when it oxidises and thats how you ingest it and get sick

Come on scrounger, we cant be makin hack parts out of salvage weights.

Nov 21, 2009 06:00:19
blackmgb

All great ideas. With a handful of weeks to go and holiday and business travel in the middle, I went the Speedway route. I bought two 50 lbs lead bricks and will weigh, cut, drill and weigh some more.

Nov 23, 2009 05:59:02
B-racer

Tire shops don't give away lead anymore. That's CASH in those buckets!

Nov 23, 2009 14:41:41
Speedracer

It's also important to note that the lead needs to be put where it is needed, on the Midgets, they always wanted it in the passenger side footbox. The last palce you want to put extra lead is byond the axles, I seen folks put in the trunk before, thats not a good idea.

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