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I am looking to replace the single carburettor on my 79B I found Pierce manifolds has a 32/36dvg carb kit[carb, manifold,filter,etc] for $320.Moss has a similar kit for $590. Am I missing something has anybody any idea why I should not go with Pierce.I,m trying to build a good dependable road car on a budget and this saving seems to good to be true
Thanks
Michael
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Boy do I feel dumb. I just got a look at the moss kit .Side draft as to downdraft , now I know why the price difference
Moss sells the DGV as well. Have you considered going with Jimmy Hilton's rebuilt SU's? I have a Weber, but many swear by the SU's--you may want to investigate it.
Moss Kit $589.95 US: http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=37333
(Side draft is $899.95 US)
Why not put on a pair of HIF's or SU's. It dramatically improves the cars performance, looks like they came from the factory that way ( they did on other cars) and enjoy the ride. The debate between the Weber crowd and the SU crowd is fairly divided and you'll enjoy the responses. Either way you are ahead of the ZS. If you are going to switch carbs, are you also going to switch exhaust?
Your not missing anything.. Moss can be severely overpriced on a lot of things. I always go to Moss first, see what they offer and at what price, then search around to see if I can do better. Moss carries a lot of stuff others don't, but in some cases you can get the same stuff elsewhere for much, much cheaper.
Edit....
By the way, did you notice the Weber 32/36 set-up being sold in the trader section for $225 o.b.o ?
http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?42,1280908
Just installed the Pierce DGV - looks like the same kit Moss and Vicky Brit sell - both appear to have Pierce manifolds. The Weber was OEM, made in Spain. Love it - particularly the $320 price. I am going to bet Pierce supplies the Weber to both. I think Pierce supplies the aluminum heads to these guys too - with similar markups.
You have the two Webers confused in your second post. The DGV is a downdraft - you still save $270 through Pierce and get the same kit.
I have a set of SU's that were overhauled by Jimmy on my '80. LOVE 'EM!!!
Thanks for the input folks ,I was thinking of the downdraft weber because the price of two S U,s and manifold seemed very high and even though rebuilt they are still used and I would think the weber would be more dependable. That said I am going to find out what Jimmy Hilton's rebuilt SU's cost.
Thanks again
I got my Weber straight from Weber. Very good price and a nice product. As I have noted before, pretty much a "plug and play" unit. Gotta new exhause header in mind as well? Don't forget that part.
RE MOSS that facet solid state fuel pump is about 32 dollars at most
air cooled V W suppliers
And, if you go with Moss for anything- go through Chris Roop, he da man.
British Miles has good prices and can get a wide variaty of stuff. www.britishmiles.com or britishmiles@gmail.com
The Weber was OEM, made in Spain."
What does that mean "Weber was OEM"?
.... That said I am going to find out what Jimmy Hilton's rebuilt SU's cost.
Thanks again"
I think he is on vacation. I have sent him 2 or 3 messages trying to get an estimate on a conversion for my 75 MGB… IAnybody know who else sells these conversion kits?
Could you send me his email via PM? Thank you very much, Alberto
[quote=dhartlein]
The Weber was OEM, made in Spain."
What does that mean "Weber was OEM"?[/quote]
Not sure if OEM but my 79 has the original WEBER from Spain
Sorry guys! I am nearly 2 weeks behind on email and PM's. I am working at getting caught up .......
[quote=TTFN]
[quote=dhartlein]
The Weber was OEM, made in Spain."
What does that mean "Weber was OEM"?[/quote]
Not sure if OEM but my 79 has the original WEBER from Spain[/quote]
Weber was never OE (Original Equipment) for the MG. In a cross licensed form made by Holley, it was OE on the Pinto.
Weber (the Italian company) went bankrupt many years ago and was reformed several times since then. The Spanish plant was opened after the original bankruptcy and the initial rebirth to build cheaper parts, IIRC.
So a Spanish made DGV is neither "OE" for an MG nor even "Original" from Spain. Original would have to be from Italy. IMHO.
OEM means Original Equipment Manufacturer regardless of the country.
The post means Webers are made in Spain.
Weber were only OEM to BMC via their works cars but not in all cases, as far as I know.
Webers have mostly been OEM to Itialian and German, mostly high performance and mostly as side draught.
As mentioned if licensed to Holly OEM Pinto carbs were OEM Holly and or OEM Ford if you speak of the entire car. Thus some OEM Ford Pinto had OEM Holly Webers. Or OEM carbs fitted to some Pintos were OEM Weber or OEM Holley Webers or OEM Holley...
Hope that clarifies the matter for you:S
I have a weber 32/36 and I love it over the traditional ZS. Now, if you can wait for a month or so, I will let you know what difference is to have a set of HS4 rebuilt by Jimmy Hilton. I just sent them to him last week.
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I will let you know what difference is to have a set of HS4 rebuilt by Jimmy Hilton. [ quote]
Night and Day IMHO...but I want your read! And if I am correct I will be messageing and referenceing your post OFTEN!
:thumbsup:
[quote=kerim21]
I will let you know what difference is to have a set of HS4 rebuilt by Jimmy Hilton. [ quote]
Night and Day IMHO...but I want your read! And if I am correct I will be messageing and referenceing your post OFTEN!
:thumbsup:"
Sounds like a plan... I have been following threads on WEBERS and TWIN CARBS for a while, over a year to be exact, and there's always that debate that sparks fire on ice. I am definitely a "Modifier" when I got my B it was pretty mutilated (see my journal) so when I was putting her back together, I started making some small changes that for some are not "PURIST". Weber carb was probably one of the first, if not the first. at taht time, when I started with the mechanical, I didn't know twin SU's from a pair of Windshield wiper fluid canisters. My ZS was leaking and I needed to find someone to rebuilt it fast or another solution, that's when I learned about Webers. I got my hands on one, did the modification and it wasn't until I found this site that I knew of the existanse of the twin su's. some say that Twin SU's is the way to go, then others say that Weber was the upgrade for MG's from the SU's. and anything in between.
I finally decided to put it to the test myself and I will be able to share my experience with everyone after I do the swap (once I get it from Jimmy).
u can quote me any time you like, I will be honored.
Thanks for the input folks ,I was thinking of the downdraft weber because the price of two S U,s and manifold seemed very high and even though rebuilt they are still used and I would think the weber would be more dependable. That said I am going to find out what Jimmy Hilton's rebuilt SU's cost.
Thanks again"
The weber is cheaper, but rebuild ain't used, it often times beter than new, dpending on who is doing the rebuilding, and since we're talking about Jimmy, I'd say they are better than new, personally I don't care for the new Burlen SUs.
They got some Weber set up that for your RB that don't require a exhaust change, but never kid yourself, a downdraft Weber is never better than a rebuilt set of SUs, the Weber is new, so people gravitate to it, but in truth it's alteast robbing a good 10 hp over twin SUs .
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