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Sep 05, 2010 10:38:34
cstrong45

As Democrats brace for a November wave that threatens their control of the House, party leaders are preparing a brutal triage of their own members in hopes of saving enough seats to keep a slim grip on the majority.

[color=#FF0033]Youth in Asia?[/color] LOL. Sounds like the dems are going to euthanize their old pols.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/05/us/politics/05dems.html?_r=1&hp

Quote: "In the next two weeks, Democratic leaders will review new polls and other data that show whether vulnerable incumbents have a path to victory. If not, the party is poised to redirect money to concentrate on trying to protect up to two dozen lawmakers who appear to be in the strongest position to fend off their challengers.

“We are going to have to win these races one by one,” said Representative Chris Van Hollen of Maryland, chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, conceding that the party would ultimately cut loose members who had not gained ground. "


Maybe they should listen to the people? The only time these arrogant bastards pay any attention to their voters is during campaigns. What a shame.

Sep 05, 2010 10:45:00
taskadog

What's new here?
Political parties always allocate their resorces to winnable elections and seldom to races they are secure in or can not win.





Sep 05, 2010 10:45:59
cstrong45

I dunno Phil, it seemed like a big to the NYT, they put it on the front page.

Sep 05, 2010 11:10:42
Steve64B

Quote: "
What's new here?
Political parties always allocate their resorces to winnable elections and seldom to races they are secure in or can not win."


Interesting... suddenly what the NYT thinks is important... is important?!?

i know that will change when they rip a Republian.

Sep 05, 2010 12:16:36
6863m

The responding strategy will be a simple reporting of the voting record of the Democrat. The only winning strategy for a Democrat in a mixed district will be to run against Obama and Pelosi. It will show they followed the direction of the Democrat leadership on every core issue. The ones most at risk are those who ran in the districts around the major cities who were Republican districts and then switched to Democrat in 2006. They had promised to be independent and "blue dogs". Then they just followed the leaders. They are in trouble and it will be an easy TV ad.

Sep 05, 2010 13:03:00
cstrong45

Its really bad Dick, when the democrats mouthpiece admits defeat too.:)-D

Sep 05, 2010 20:19:01
taskadog

Quote: "
The responding strategy will be a simple reporting of the voting record of the Democrat. The only winning strategy for a Democrat in a mixed district will be to run against Obama and Pelosi. It will show they followed the direction of the Democrat leadership on every core issue. The ones most at risk are those who ran in the districts around the major cities who were Republican districts and then switched to Democrat in 2006. They had promised to be independent and "blue dogs". Then they just followed the leaders. They are in trouble and it will be an easy TV ad."


This is very intresting coming from a Republican.
Just 2 short years ago virtually all succesful Repub. candidates ran on a stratagy that distenced themselves from GW.
He was persona non grata in the campaigns of 2006 and more so in 2008.
What we are seeing in some close races regarding President Obama is nothing new. It happens every off year election cycle

Sep 05, 2010 21:24:38
6863m

Phil, did the Republicans run away from Bush in 2002, 2004 and when he was a lame duck in 2006 they ran away and about Iraq. Al Gore could not even mention Clintons name in 2000. How does that compare to what is happening with Obama in 18 months. I don't think you are thinking it through. It did not happen to Ronald Reagan either. It did happen to Clinton he was just like Obama because of his extreme policies in his first two years. But he changed after the Republicans embarrassed him in 1994 and they were back in 1996.

Losing seats in an off year is not the same as the candidates running away from the Party.

And we are talking about those in swing seats and the Blue Dogs.

Sep 06, 2010 06:29:30
taskadog

If we look at the recent history of 1st term midterm elections we can see that all have resulted in big losses and low approval rates for the Pres.
Truman -55
Ike -18
Nixon -12
Regan -26
Clinton -52
Only GW +8 and FDR 1934 +9 have gained seats

Truman had only 27%, Regan had 42% approval rating and Clinton had 48% Only Bush had a positive (+67)rating going into his 1st midterm, of course we know he set a record low (+37) going into his 2nd.
All won reelection 2 years later

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/mid-term_elections.php

Sep 06, 2010 07:58:28
cstrong45

Bottom line is how many will the Dems lose. Thats all that counts. Then the question is will Obama work with the Congress, one thing for sure, he wont be able to push his socialism gambit even if the conservatives fail to gain a majority.

Sep 06, 2010 20:04:03
Steve64B

Quote: "
Bottom line is how many will the Dems lose. Thats all that counts. Then the question is will Obama work with the Congress, one thing for sure, he wont be able to push his socialism gambit even if the conservatives fail to gain a majority."


OK then... so what's the over/under on the House and Senate?

House 50
Senate 5

Sep 06, 2010 20:06:49
6863m

Phil, good numbers and it appears that Obama will be about the same as Clinton and for the same reason. They both made the same mistake.

Sep 06, 2010 21:01:32
cstrong45

Quote: "
[quote=cstrong45]
Bottom line is how many will the Dems lose. Thats all that counts. Then the question is will Obama work with the Congress, one thing for sure, he wont be able to push his socialism gambit even if the conservatives fail to gain a majority."


OK then... so what's the over/under on the House and Senate?

House 50
Senate 5[/quote]

Your closer to vegas than I am.

Sep 07, 2010 08:00:36
taskadog

I'll lay odds the # falls somewhere between Clintons slide and Regans. I'll also wager that like both of them the tide will change and he'll get another 4 years.
Not living near Vegas, we'll have to bet at an Indian casino, I hear the Ft. Lauderdale Hard Rock is Floridas best.

Sep 07, 2010 08:08:26
cstrong45

ahhh forget the indians, we have a casino right down the road.

Sep 07, 2010 10:00:54
Steve64B

Come on boys... pony up a number! Let's see who calls the change in seats!

I'm saying the Republicans won't pick up more than 50 and 5.

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