Goodrich flexible brake lines not fitting

I purchased from Moss the Goodrich 182-208 flexible steel brake line kit set for my MGA. The car is a 1600 with front disc brakes and disc wheels. I suppose the pipes on the car may be from a 1500 or some other breed of brakeline.

I got as far as replacing the rear line. The problem is that the male and female hose ends appear to have different shapes. Comparatively speaking, the female end of the Goodridge line appears to have a deep cone shape. The male end of the pipe on the car appears to have a shallow half-bowl shape, sort of like a squat mushroom. So it appears that these different shapes prevent a proper mating of the pipes. I tightened the brake pipe nut very tight but the joint is leaking under the pressure of gravity.

My original flexible pipe is marked K(??) 2-151 18 0 AP 5.

Any solutions short of buying a complete set on new brake pipes or reverting to my old rubber brake line?

Can I teflon tape this joint without risk of killing myself when the car won't stop after the first 100 miles?

I don't know anything about your specific part no's - but I ran into a similar thing when I built my own pipes. Go to your local NAPA with both end fittings. They sell lots of little adapters and couplings - drawers full of them - to go from Girling to threaded, etc.

JIM in NH

I have same lines on my car no problem. 1600

...buy a flaring tool kit and try to re-flare your line....it's a bubble flare.The tool will always be a good investment

Jeff.

The line fittings can fail to seat after enough cycles. Moss carries the individual hard lines, so you can replace just the one that is having seating problems.

Chances are this line has been hammered over time anyway, as it is the most exposed.

#181-220


Kelvin.

Thanks for the advice guys.

A friend has access to a good flaring tool, but it seems that I should take the line off the car to get a good flare. If I'm doing that, I might as well replace the line, although it looks in pretty good shape. British Victoria has lines that are much cheaper than Moss, sold by length. Does anybody know how long of a replacement line I should order? Thanks.

if you have a flaring tool go to your local auto parts store buy a line and make your own. just remember to put the ends on first.

My local NAPA sells the tubing. I made my own new rear line.

JIM in NH

Thanks for all of the advice, but I'll have to worry about this later.

I'm off to Watkins Glen for the Knapp Sporting Roadster Tour and the Vintage Festival for a few days. Been signed up since last December.

To conclude this thread.

I pulled off the brake pipe that runs from the 4-way connection to the rear axle and brought it to the local repair shop for a look see. The mechanic said the bubble flair looked ok and should work. Although I had mashed one of the (male) fittings on the pipe, he said it should be OK to reuse and offered to lend me his tube wrench to try the re-install. But I told him I would bring in the Goodrich line for him to look at just to make sure that it did not require a different type of flare. In the meanwhile, looking for a new replacement fitting, I stopped at the local parts store and bought a whole new brakeline with fittings that looked like they would work ($8.00). So I brought all this back to the mechanic. He said the Goodrich line required a bubble flare on the brake pipe and the new pipe had a double flare. He put a bubble flare on one end of that new pipe but it would not work because the new fittings on that pipe did not bring the brake pipe tight enough into the Goodrich line. They did not go deep enough into the Goodrich line.

So I was left with three choices: re-use the old brake pipe and try again; buy a new brake pipe from British Victoria at about $8.00; or order a new pipe from Moss at about $25.00. In some web posts concerning the fittings, Moss assured that its brake pipes were compatible with the Goodrich brake lines. So, rather than take any chances, I ordered the more expensive Moss pipe that ran from the 4-way to the rear axle. This came with the correct fittings and I was able to re-install everything without too much trouble.

I also took this opportunity to upgrade my front disc brake pads to Porterfield R4-1 Race Series pads. These come with a warning that they are not for street use, but I think Porterfield also makes a street pad. I mention this because the Porterfields have a much larger wear surface (by about 25%) than the pads that I had on the car. Very meaty when compared to what was on the car. Now I hope I will be more comfortable when I need my brakes on the track.

The line and pipe removal and reinstallation and the subsequent one-man bleeding of the brakes proved to be a bit messy.

Does anybody know if these hoses are legal for road use in australia