MGB: I come to believe

Nov 06, 2009 19:24:29
slywelder

Ive come to believe that 99 and 9/10th's people on this Ot political forum dont have any idea what in the world there talking about,they get there info off of biased news or web sites are mis-informed or simply lieing. Yeah im guilty also but at least i admit it

Nov 06, 2009 19:30:14
John Hamilton

Guilty here too. I get some info from the talking heads, some I hear at work, some I just pull outta my a$$. It is fun though!

Nov 06, 2009 20:40:03
slywelder

[quote="John Hamilton"]
Guilty here too. I get some info from the talking heads, some I hear at work, some I just pull outta my a$$. It is fun though![/quote]-------------------Hi John,i guess my point is i my finally growing tired of argueing,tradeing sarcastic remarks and hopefully i dont make enemies. Dont get me wrong i enjoy the forum and ive learned a lot but i think were guilty of making assumptions about each other that may not be accurate. Damm i dont know what got into me tonight,must be a "Hallmark" momment

Nov 06, 2009 20:53:58
John Hamilton

No sweat, I think we all are passionate about our views and rightly so. I enjoy most of the back and forth and I learn from other perspectives. Your opinion comes from a different world view and without the internet and this forum, I wouldn't be able to explore other possibilities. I was born and raised in the South, so that's where I developed my slant to the right. BTW, my entire family is made up if liberal Democrats, so they wonder all the time if I was switched at birth. Have a good weekend!

Nov 06, 2009 20:55:44
slywelder

Thanks John and you to!!

Nov 06, 2009 23:02:41
S. Duerr

I guess my slant comes from my religous beliefs. I read various news sources (I don't watch TV) to get varying views, but they are filtered through my belief system. And, to those who scoff at me filtering through my belief system I'll argue that we all have a belief system that we filter our world through. I like hearing the views of others and respect the right of others to hold views different from me. At times, I feel like the same isn't afforded to me and that is what has frustrated me in several discussions here.

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Nov 07, 2009 02:45:47
cwweigleathotmail

I too hold no hard feelings; my take and opinions are more business-related than personal - that can be good, or bad depending on one's perspective. I recall 40+ years ago how things were, and where they are now. That's everything from prices, to medical care, to family values - the last of which is most significant, given what we see in the press now compared to what was presented in even the "radical" flower power days of the 60s. I'd say we are quite a bit more errr, "permissive" in lots of things, wouldn't you say?

In a short time, the legacies which were left me by my mom and dad will be changed again at a great difference from our country's history, and our own legacies. What we had then, we will not have later. I will miss the traditions of what has been, just as I miss those dear to me who are no longer here.

Lots going on in the media, and in Washington. I think I liked it better when nothing got done - such a situation seemed to preserve the traditions I wish to see continue.

I want to see more than just a good sales job[/u], and to put it in MG terms, the "package(s)" [cars] presented must go beyond a shiny paint job and hype, rah rah. Covering rust holes with bondo means the same problem will be back, that it was a quick fix for a long term problem. Don't believe anyone here wants to pay top dollar for a car like that.

If I saw good reasoning and study in whatever was being done, and solid empiral evidence as to why changes were being made, with good structure and thought, perhaps my value structure would be more likely to acquiesce and say "okay", but [u]hurried changes made for the wrong reasons are probably the wrong changes
, regardless of the intent being advertised.

Such a scenario is generally uncomfortable for me, knowing too that I may be allowing a further backslide to be passed on to my kids.

I wish all of my friends on this forum - even those with differing opinions - the very best. CWW, Aiken, SC

Nov 07, 2009 05:20:57
hloomis711

Chuck what you said X2

Nov 07, 2009 07:45:33
S. Duerr

Chuck, I think that you have really put to words what many are worried about with health care.

I'm a teacher and in my 22nd year. I have seen an erosion of values as well and it is discouraging. I know that, in the 60's, the people my age (late 40's) were shaking their heads at the youth of the time and that all youth rebel against their parent's generation. But it's beyond simple rebellion in today's youth. I look at some of my students and wonder which one is going to be the one to bring the gun to school (and I have some good candidates right now). When I was in school, we all brought guns to school--especially during hunting season.

Again, Chuck, thanks for your thoughts--the way you put it is profound.

Nov 07, 2009 14:39:48
GT caretaker

[quote=slywelder]
[quote="John Hamilton"]
Guilty here too. I get some info from the talking heads, some I hear at work, some I just pull outta my a$$. It is fun though![/quote]-------------------Hi John,i guess my point is i my finally growing tired of argueing,tradeing sarcastic remarks and hopefully i dont make enemies. Dont get me wrong i enjoy the forum and ive learned a lot but i think were guilty of making assumptions about each other that may not be accurate. Damm i dont know what got into me tonight,must be a "Hallmark" momment[/quote]



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