I'm not sure about the truth of this, but I love it anyway!
An ingenious example of speech and politics occurred recently at the U.N. and made the world community smile. A representative from Israel began-
"Before beginning my talk I want to tell you something about Moses. When
he struck the rock and it brought forth water, he thought, 'What a good opportunity to have a bath!' He removed his clothes, put them aside on the rock and entered the water.
When he got out and wanted to dress, his clothes had vanished. A Palestinian had stolen them."
The Palestinian representative jumped up furiously and shouted, "What are you
talking about? The Palestinians weren't there then."
The Israeli representative smiled and said "And now that I have made that clear,
I will begin my speech."
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l like that one, very funny, though the Palastinian reply would be: "Yeah, but you guys left and we moved in; now you want it back?"
More seriously,as I understand it,what is now Israel was occupied by other racial groups long BEFORE the Jews arrived, so they weren't there first either.They fought, won (cause "they had God on their side") and displaced the previous occupiers. (Others will have more knowledge and may want to contribute).But surely this has been the history of human (and animal) occupation of this planet from the begining.Unfortunately nothing in current affairs makes me think that anything will ever change.
Sorry to turn a very funny joke into something more serious.
Then Isreal would say but then you declared war on us and we won...so go away!
don4975 Wrote:
Then Isreal would say but then you declared war on us and we won...so go away!
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I can't think of a precedent in history where one country attacks another, loses the war (and as a result territory) and then says "OK now give us our land back" On the other hand I'd give it back; anything for peace. However, Israel did vacate the Gaza Strip, and two things resulted i) the Palestinians used their base in Gaza to repeatedly launch rockets into Israel. ii) The Palestinians seem to fight and kill each other
Your right...lose the war, lose the land and everthing that comeS with it. Israel has done all it can except commit suicide to make them happy and it will never be enough...till they are all dead.
I don't agree with a lot of things w/ Israel and how they behave (meaning they better get some balls and defend themselves and start acting like a country, not a US State) but I like them and am glad they are our friends.
I support Israel 100%, and then some. I am not Jewish.
I should say that I do know that it is complex, and I dont pretend to understand the complexities, but I do know if Israel want to gain respect, it wont come from being nice.
hardly ever noticed is the partner ship Isreal has with american universities to teach student in isreal in medicine, computers, space technology and guess what, arabs, palistianians, and others are in those classes in Televiv and other schools.
The american Jewish Committee hs it all on thier site....if they can meet through education and also in Texas at flight training and officer traing schools we run they can do anything.....factions that are not in power usually want to fight for the fight's sake. because if they are not in a fight they have to go to work for a l iving.....
I don't agree with a lot of things w/ Israel and how they behave (meaning they better get some balls and defend themselves and start acting like a country, not a US State) but I like them and am glad they are our friends.
Actually Isreal has balls and even offered to remove Sodd'im INsane the first time round but the US said No. The average Ireasli want sto live in peace bUT will strike back but then gets condemmed by the rest of the world. IF they try peace the world calls them whimps and if they retaliate they are then called warmongers and worse. Give them a break.
That's the problem, they are worried about being condemed by the rest of the world....guess what...that already happened! sorry...no break.
Once they stop asking the US to when to piss, then they will get respect.
MGB65B Wrote:
don4975 Wrote:Quote:
Then Isreal would say but then you declared war on us and we won...so go away!
I can't think of a precedent in history where one country attacks another, loses the war (and as a result territory) and then says "OK now give us our land back" On the other hand I'd give it back; anything for peace. However, Israel did vacate the Gaza Strip, and two things resulted i) the Palestinians used their base in Gaza to repeatedly launch rockets into Israel. ii) The Palestinians seem to fight and kill each other
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Seems like something pretty close to that happened in WWII....The Japanese and the Germans walked away with their land intact after invading everyone else...I'm not sure they ever demanded it back, but they surely got it back...
That said, I respect the Isrealis....they are sitting in a position that I do not envy. At least most of the people that hate us are half a world away, not next door.
Unfortunately, it's ALWAYS the small percentage of the screw-ups and fanatics in this world that incite that area of the world every single time.
When you really think about it. Most people, especially people that have families and children just want to live in peace. No one wants to ever see their children killed. No One!
But, there is a small percentage in every population and in every country that have a few screws turned a bit too tight. They're usually the ones that cause all the problems. Then, the governments get involved and bam, retaliation and it never ends.
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