MGB: Michelle Obama on Larry King live

Oct 09, 2008 18:02:37
DAVES 78 MGB

For anyone who watched last night: Me and the wife agree on something after 25years of marrige. Barack Obamas wife is as smart and passionate about America as Obama is. To me they come across as not your typical full of crap politicians. No life time in the senate. I read his book from a few years ago "The Audacity of Hope" and it is inspiring. I read the Rolling Stone article on McCain and it was scary that a guy with his background could become President. All the stuff people are saying that Obama has terrorist friends, a deep down inside Muslim ect ect are simply not true. For once there is someone running for president that comes from honest means like most of us, who is willing to try to get us back on top where we belong without paying off lobbyists, who does not get into a bullsh8t attack of mis-information directed at his opponent. Mrs Obama was asked of she was upset that Palin told a rally that Obama has terroist friends and M. Obama sa id "I don't listen to anything thats not true ect" (not verbatem) . I should have paid more attention in english 101. I just find that these are two well educated, passionate people and I think that Obama can do as good a job or better than any President that we've had. And get over the middle name stuff - it's just a middle name. I served in the U.S. Navy and I respect the POW stuff . But its not a prerequsite for ,, well you know.

Oct 09, 2008 18:18:36
Eric M

I think I just thru up , must have been the Kool-Aid.

Oct 09, 2008 18:27:37
DAVES 78 MGB

Eric M Wrote:

Quote: "
I think I just thru up , must have been the Kool-Aid.
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thanks for sharing

Oct 09, 2008 18:30:34
Derek up North

Eric M Wrote:

Quote: "
I think I just thru up , must have been the Kool-Aid.
"


If nothing else, you're predictable.

Yawn.

.:

Oct 09, 2008 18:37:03
Eric M

Just like the liberals on here



Oct 09, 2008 18:40:15
brownsgolf

To accept an article in Rolling Stone, perhaps the most liberal magazine I have ever seen. They would never write anything good about McCain, it has to be about Obama. Obama could stab someone and Rolling Stone would report it as an act of self defense and that he was a great person who was fast thinking for his actions.

Oct 09, 2008 18:48:27
tbarker7815

sort of the same coverage Fox News would give McCain

I don't believe any of them.

Oct 09, 2008 19:09:46
JimmyHilton

brownsgolf Wrote:

Quote: "
To accept an article in Rolling Stone, perhaps the most liberal magazine I have ever seen. They would never write anything good about McCain, it has to be about Obama. Obama could stab someone and Rolling Stone would report it as an act of self defense and that he was a great person who was fast thinking for his actions."


Only in time, Dan ...... Not unlike OJ.

Oct 09, 2008 19:13:34
slywelder

Dave His wife is a class act,she comes from a working class family and both she and her brother became sucessful people.She should be a insperation to young people that hard work and determanation pays off

Oct 09, 2008 19:14:13
wyatt

.....brownsgolf, prepare for the monkhood and isolation.........and talking to old white guys....

Oct 09, 2008 22:30:00
Scoooty

Dave, Im confused. Since when did Michelle become so passionate about America? Isnt she the one, who only months ago stated, for the first time in my life, Im proud to be an American. Isnt she a 20-year member of Trinity Church (the place where she was married and had both kids baptized) where Pastor Wright screamed God D*** America in his sermon? (Audacity of hope was actually titled after one of his America-hating sermons) It seems to me that both Obamas had to possess a certain degree of intelligence to pass their respective (and respected) law schools, Harvard no less, however, I dont think the Obamas have made wise choices on who they allow to surround them.

One aspect that I can bring to this particular post is that Im a native to Chicago, Obamas supposed home town. Dave, every politician in Illinois is full of crap. They dont call Chicago the Windy City because of the breeze across Lake Michigan, its because for all of ages, the politicians in Chicago have been known to be full of wind. Anyway, if Michelle and Barack are passionate about America, shouldnt they start in their home town? I can tell you that the educational system here is crap. And taxes! Get ready for these Chicago sales tax is at 10.25%! (Hes for small business, right?) And as for seedy politician back-door deals, Barack and Michelle are no different than any of em. You can google Tony Rezko and read all about it. Rezko bought the adjacent lot next to the Obama house the day after the Obamas purchased their home. Within days, Rezko sold it to the Obamas for $200,000 less than what he paid for it. Within a month, Rezko was emailing Obama to get jobs for his buddies in high ranking Illinois government jobs.

As for McCain, I can tell you hes not the one that I wanted. Im personally sick and tired of hearing the Republican candidate stand up at these debates and be proud of so many times hes gone against his own party. I have to say, Dave, Im surprised to hear a former Navy soldier is more afraid of a fellow soldier, a POW nonetheless, than somebody with a 100% Muslim name who refused to wear the American Flag on his suit or place his hand over his heart during the national anthem. Soldiers know who they want as Commander in Chief. Ask your old buddies. All I can tell you is that between the two of these candidates, and as a former Army Officer myself, I would rather vote for a candidate that shot rockets at our enemies than one who shot staples into Acorn (activist) posters.

Oct 09, 2008 22:41:18
JimmyHilton

Scott,

I don't know that anyone could have said it better ...!

Oct 10, 2008 02:15:02
racer76

Scoooty Wrote:

Quote: "
Soldiers know who they want as Commander in Chief. Ask your old buddies.
"


http://www.pensitoreview.com/2008/02/17/in-1992-pows-accused-mccain-of-collaborating-with-vietnamese/

Or ask these people:

"Among groups who oppose John McCain, the most serious charges come from a small but fervent cadre of Vietnam POW/MIA activists who accuse him of being a collaborator during his time in the Vietnamese POW camps."

I hope you won't disparage the views of a POW?

Oct 10, 2008 04:06:56
twigworker

I received the post below from a friend today and have had no time to check it all out for validity, so you have to be the judge as to its accuracy, but it sure does ring true with me from the little snips that I have picked up elsewhere over the past months.

First though Dave, one of the things that caught my eye in your post was that you had read BHO's book and found it inspiring. Could it be that it was written by someone who wanted you to believe the good things that he had written? And then you immediately say that you had read an article in Rolling Stone about GWB and found that to be an expose of distasteful "facts". The Rolling Stone? Puleeese! Give me a break. That publication has demonstrated over the past zillion years that it is a far left tool and that nearly nothing good is presented about anyone with even the slightest conservative tendencies. They aways praise the debauched and corrupt.

I am certainly not condoning GWB record in some areas but to compare the two writings and form a conclusion based on the comparison is ludicrous.

Jack


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Begin email from undisclosed person...

This election has me very worried. So many things to consider. About a year ago I would have voted for Obama. I have changed my mind three times since than. I watch all the news channels, jumping from one to another. I must say this drives my husband crazy. But, I feel if you view MSNBC, CNN, and Fox News, you might get some middle ground to work with.

About six months ago, I started thinking 'where did the money come from for Obama'. I have four daughters who went to College, and we were and are middle class, and money was and is tight. My husband and I and our girls worked hard to get them into school and keep them there and we still ended up with lots of student loans.

With the question of how Obama paid for all of his schooling running around in my mind I started looking into his life and found this stuff.

Around 1979 Obama started college at Occidental in California. He is very open about his two years at Occidental, saying that he tried all kinds of drugs and that he was wasting his time. He confesses freely that even though he had a brilliant mind, did not apply himself to his studies.

At Occidental, 'Barry' (that was the name he used all his life) had two roommates, Muhammad Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, both from Pakistan.

During the summer of 1981, after his second year in college, he made a 'round the world' trip. Stopping to see his mother in Indonesia, then Hyderabad in India, three weeks in Karachi, Pakistan where he stayed with his roommate's family, then off to Africa to visit his father's family.

My question - Where did he get the money for this trip? Nether I, nor any one of my children would have had money for a trip like this when they where in college.

When hecame back he started school at Columbia University in New York. It is at this time that he decided that he wanted everyone to begin calling him Barack - not Barry.

Do you know what the tuition is at Columbia? It's not cheap to say the least. Where did he get money for tuition? Student Loans? Maybe.

After Columbia, he went to Chicago to work as a Community Organizer for $12,000. a year. Why Chicago? Why not New York? He was already living in New York.

By 'chance' he met Antoin 'Tony' Rezko, born in Aleppo Syria, and a real estate developer in Chicago. Rezko has been convicted of fraud and bribery this year. He was also named 'Entrepreneur of the Decade' by the Arab-American Business and Professional Association'.

About two years later, Obama entered Harvard Law School. Do you have any idea what tuition is for Harvard Law School? Where did he get the money for Harvard Law School? More student loans?

After Law school, he went back to Chicago. Rezko offered him a job, which he turned down. But, he did take a job with Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland.

Guess what? They represented 'Rezar' which Rezko's firm.

Rezko was one of Obama's first major financial contributors when he first ran for office in Chicago.

In 2003, Rezko threw an early fundraiser for Obama which Chicago Tribune reporter David Mendelland claims was instrumental in providing Obama with 'seed money' for his U.S. Senate race.

Less than two years later, iIn 2005, Obama purchased a new home in Kenwoood District of Chicago for $1.65 million (less than asking price).

With ALL those Student Loans - Where did he get the money for the property?

On the same day Rezko's wife, Rita, purchased the adjoining empty lot for full price.

The London Times reported that Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born Billionaire loaned Rezko $3.5 million three weeks before Obama's new home was purchased. Obama met Nadhmi Auchi many times with Rezko.

Now, we have Obama running for President.

Valerie Jarrett, was Michele Obama's boss. She is now Obama's chief advisor and he does not make any major decisions without talking to her first.

Where was Jarrett born? Ready for this? Shiraz, Iran!

Do we see a pattern here? Or am I going crazy?

On May 10, 2008 The Times reported that Robert Malley advisor to Obama had been 'sacked' after the press found out he was having regular contacts with 'Hamas', which controls Gaza and is connected with Iran.

This past week, buried in the back part of the Iraqi newspapers it was reported that during Obama's visit to Iraq, he asked their leaders to do nothing about the war until after he is elected, and he will 'Take care of things'.

Oh, and by the way, remember the college roommates that where born in Pakistan? They are in charge of all those 'small' Internet campaign contribution for Obama. Where is that money coming from? The poor and middle class in this country? Or could it be from the Middle East?

And the final bit of news. On September 7, 2008, The Washington Times posted a verbal slip that was made on 'This Week' with George Stephanapoulos. Obama, when talking about his religion, said, 'My Muslim faith'. When questioned, his answer was that 'he made a mistake'. Some mistake!

All of the above information I got on line. If you would like to check it - Go to Wikipedia, for Barack Obama; Tony Rezko; Valerie Jarrett: Daily Times - Obama visited Pakistan in 1981; The Washington Times - September 7, 2008; The Times May 10, 2008.

Now the BIG question - If I found out all this information on my own, Why haven't all of our 'intelligent' members of the press been reporting this? A phrase that keeps ringing in my ear - 'Beware of the enemy from within'!!!

Oct 10, 2008 04:34:04
Derek up North

twigworker Wrote:

Quote: "
I received the post below from a friend today and have had no time to check it all out for validity, so you have to be the judge as to its accuracy, but it sure does ring true with me from the little snips that I have picked up elsewhere over the past months.
"


Well, Jack, unlike you, I ALWAYS try and check out what I Cut & Paste. I find it saves me getting caught with my pants down.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/money.asp

Please answer a question. If a similar "piece" was sent to you about McCain/Palin, would you post it here without checking it first?

Oct 10, 2008 04:40:24
Eric M

Just cause Snopes is on the internet , that doesn't mean its always accurate , like people believe . Just like FOX , cnn , abc or any other network.

Oct 10, 2008 05:08:37
Derek up North

I don't disagree about Snopes being infallible, but I've got to admit, I can't remember any instances of it being proven incorrect or biased. It's certainly a quick and easy way to run a first check. That was easy for me to do, and I'd have thought easy for anyone else.

Can you point out ANY case where Snopes has failed? I'd like to read it. I won't comment on "Just like FOX , cnn , abc or any other network." I don't watch them.

EDIT.

Heck. Why don't we start with this one. Eric, perhaps you'd like to point out where Snopes is incorrect about Jack's Cut & Paste Obama "Expos". Or Jack. Or anyone else. It's your 1st Amendment, not mine.

Oct 10, 2008 05:41:48
dte948

ERIC,

"Liberal" means having a liberal view of the Constitution. "Conservative" means having a strict view of the Constitution. After the past seven years you should be careful who you call a 'Liberal'.

Dave

Oct 10, 2008 05:49:59
racer76

dte948 Wrote:

Quote: "
"Liberal" means having a liberal view of the Constitution. "Conservative" means having a strict view of the Constitution. After the past seven years you should be careful who you call a 'Liberal'.
"


Seeing as I am not living in America I guess I should have stated that my opinion was based on an external perspective (but remember, this is an international forum). And perspective is what defines LEFT and RIGHT - "as compared to".

As for "Conservative" means having a strict view of the Constitution? Wasn't it a Republican President who recently the (American) Constitution is “just a goddamned piece of paper”?

Oct 10, 2008 06:54:15
Scoooty

Thanks for the article, Eric. I hadn't read that before. I do recall McCain at a speech talking about his POW experience, and that he had been broken. You could tell he wasn't proud of that fact. If you read all of the things that happened to him during his captivity, I don't know, you never know how you would respond. Eric, if you were held off the floor by your wrists with your arms behind you for days, would you talk? I just hope that would never happen to any of our soldiers. Nobody can say what they would do in that situation, nobody.

Again, though, McCain is not my choice for the Republican side, but I would support Elmo before I voted for Obama.

Oct 10, 2008 07:25:18
racer76

Scoooty Wrote:

Quote: "
Eric, if you were held off the floor by your wrists with your arms behind you for days, would you talk?
"


I was simply pointing out the danger in such broad statements as "Soldiers know who they want as Commander in Chief" - it appears that not ALL "soldiers" (or even POWs) love McCain.

Oct 10, 2008 14:01:14
hurricane

BS

Oct 10, 2008 14:25:30
progun

How about the books "The Audacity of Deceit" or "Obama Nation". Books with real facts that he (B. Hussein) can not dispute. Careful if you write one, you might end up locked up in Kenya. That stuff can't possibly be true. The TV told me so.....

Oct 10, 2008 14:49:02
Derek up North

progun Wrote:

Quote: "
Careful if you write one, you might end up locked up in Kenya.
"


Maybe better advice would be to make sure you have the right Visas before traveling abroad. That's sort of included in any 'Travel 101' course.

Oct 10, 2008 17:22:15
DAVES 78 MGB

twigworker Wrote:

Quote: "
I received the post below from a friend today and have had no time to check it all out for validity, so you have to be the judge as to its accuracy, but it sure does ring true with me from the little snips that I have picked up elsewhere over the past months.
First though Dave, one of the things that caught my eye in your post was that you had read BHO's book and found it inspiring. Could it be that it was written by someone who wanted you to believe the good things that he had written? And then you immediately say that you had read an article in Rolling Stone about GWB and found that to be an expose of distasteful "facts". The Rolling Stone? Puleeese! Give me a break. That publication has demonstrated over the past zillion years that it is a far left tool and that nearly nothing good is presented about anyone with even the slightest conservative tendencies. They aways praise the debauched and corrupt.
I am certainly not condoning GWB record in some areas but to compare the two writings and form a conclusion based on the comparison is ludicrous.
Jack
********************
Begin email from undisclosed person...
This election has me very worried. So many things to consider. About a year ago I would have voted for Obama. I have changed my mind three times since than. I watch all the news channels, jumping from one to another. I must say this drives my husband crazy. But, I feel if you view MSNBC, CNN, and Fox News, you might get some middle ground to work with.
About six months ago, I started thinking 'where did the money come from for Obama'. I have four daughters who went to College, and we were and are middle class, and money was and is tight. My husband and I and our girls worked hard to get them into school and keep them there and we still ended up with lots of student loans.
With the question of how Obama paid for all of his schooling running around in my mind I started looking into his life and found this stuff.
Around 1979 Obama started college at Occidental in California. He is very open about his two years at Occidental, saying that he tried all kinds of drugs and that he was wasting his time. He confesses freely that even though he had a brilliant mind, did not apply himself to his studies.
At Occidental, 'Barry' (that was the name he used all his life) had two roommates, Muhammad Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, both from Pakistan.
During the summer of 1981, after his second year in college, he made a 'round the world' trip. Stopping to see his mother in Indonesia, then Hyderabad in India, three weeks in Karachi, Pakistan where he stayed with his roommate's family, then off to Africa to visit his father's family.
My question - Where did he get the money for this trip? Nether I, nor any one of my children would have had money for a trip like this when they where in college.
When hecame back he started school at Columbia University in New York. It is at this time that he decided that he wanted everyone to begin calling him Barack - not Barry.
Do you know what the tuition is at Columbia? It's not cheap to say the least. Where did he get money for tuition? Student Loans? Maybe.
After Columbia, he went to Chicago to work as a Community Organizer for $12,000. a year. Why Chicago? Why not New York? He was already living in New York.
By 'chance' he met Antoin 'Tony' Rezko, born in Aleppo Syria, and a real estate developer in Chicago. Rezko has been convicted of fraud and bribery this year. He was also named 'Entrepreneur of the Decade' by the Arab-American Business and Professional Association'.
About two years later, Obama entered Harvard Law School. Do you have any idea what tuition is for Harvard Law School? Where did he get the money for Harvard Law School? More student loans?
After Law school, he went back to Chicago. Rezko offered him a job, which he turned down. But, he did take a job with Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland.
Guess what? They represented 'Rezar' which Rezko's firm.
Rezko was one of Obama's first major financial contributors when he first ran for office in Chicago.
In 2003, Rezko threw an early fundraiser for Obama which Chicago Tribune reporter David Mendelland claims was instrumental in providing Obama with 'seed money' for his U.S. Senate race.
Less than two years later, iIn 2005, Obama purchased a new home in Kenwoood District of Chicago for $1.65 million (less than asking price).
With ALL those Student Loans - Where did he get the money for the property?
On the same day Rezko's wife, Rita, purchased the adjoining empty lot for full price.
The London Times reported that Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born Billionaire loaned Rezko $3.5 million three weeks before Obama's new home was purchased. Obama met Nadhmi Auchi many times with Rezko.
Now, we have Obama running for President.
Valerie Jarrett, was Michele Obama's boss. She is now Obama's chief advisor and he does not make any major decisions without talking to her first.
Where was Jarrett born? Ready for this? Shiraz, Iran!
Do we see a pattern here? Or am I going crazy?
On May 10, 2008 The Times reported that Robert Malley advisor to Obama had been 'sacked' after the press found out he was having regular contacts with 'Hamas', which controls Gaza and is connected with Iran.
This past week, buried in the back part of the Iraqi newspapers it was reported that during Obama's visit to Iraq, he asked their leaders to do nothing about the war until after he is elected, and he will 'Take care of things'.
Oh, and by the way, remember the college roommates that where born in Pakistan? They are in charge of all those 'small' Internet campaign contribution for Obama. Where is that money coming from? The poor and middle class in this country? Or could it be from the Middle East?
And the final bit of news. On September 7, 2008, The Washington Times posted a verbal slip that was made on 'This Week' with George Stephanapoulos. Obama, when talking about his religion, said, 'My Muslim faith'. When questioned, his answer was that 'he made a mistake'. Some mistake!
All of the above information I got on line. If you would like to check it - Go to Wikipedia, for Barack Obama; Tony Rezko; Valerie Jarrett: Daily Times - Obama visited Pakistan in 1981; The Washington Times - September 7, 2008; The Times May 10, 2008.
Now the BIG question - If I found out all this information on my own, Why haven't all of our 'intelligent' members of the press been reporting this? A phrase that keeps ringing in my ear - 'Beware of the enemy from within'!!!
"


Jack, for someone who flashes a tie-died shirt and peace sign in his avatar, i would have expected you to be a little more liberal minded!

Oct 10, 2008 17:26:24
Eric M

Jack, for someone who flashes a tie-died shirt and peace sign in his avatar, i would have expected you to be a little more liberal minded!


Stereotype !! Stereotype !!

Oct 10, 2008 18:05:02
JimmyHilton

Jack is just a good old laid back Conservative that is like me. We expect to find a way to earn our own money, and to contribute to those of our choice, not the Governments mandates. We are a peace loving people, that do know that when we have to fight, we do have to fight.

Oct 11, 2008 18:15:05
Tom Warren

I don't believe Canadians can vote in US Elections or U.S citizens vote in Canadian Elections. So, why are the Canadians so vocal about our elections on this forum.

Oct 11, 2008 18:26:00
6863m

Tom, that is an easy one. With Obama all the rules have changed. You don't have to be a natural citizen, and you can now get millions of dollars from overseas campaign contributions and they don't care where you live in the United States to vote in Ohio and heck you don't even have to show your birth certificate to be the President of the United State. The Canadians are going to vote absentee. The Ohio Secretary of State has approved all votes as long as you promise you are a citizen and live in Cincinnati..

Oct 11, 2008 18:31:36
Steve64B

Tom Warren Wrote:

Quote: "
I don't believe Canadians can vote in US Elections or U.S citizens vote in Canadian Elections. So, why are the Canadians so vocal about our elections on this forum.
"


Tom,

Because the US is the 800 pound gorilla of the world. What we do here effects people around the globe... even if they didn't vote for it! How can you expect them not to have an interest in what US politics might bring their way?

Steve

Oct 11, 2008 19:26:45
AzMarc

Steve64B Wrote:

Quote: "

Because the US is the 800 pound gorilla of the world. What we do here effects people around the globe... even if they didn't vote for it! How can you expect them not to have an interest in what US politics might bring their way?
Steve
"


Gorilla? Gorilla?

Oct 11, 2008 19:58:28
Steve64B

AzMarc Wrote:

Quote: "
Steve64B Wrote:Quote:
Because the US is the 800 pound gorilla of the world. What we do here effects people around the globe... even if they didn't vote for it! How can you expect them not to have an interest in what US politics might bring their way?
Steve
Gorilla? Gorilla?
"


Marc

What did I do wrong?

Oct 12, 2008 07:48:02
DAVES 78 MGB

Anyone can add un true information on the Wikpedia website. I would not believe any info from that site. When I was in college we were instructed not to quote any thing from that source.

Google
 
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