Does anyone have any idea why these might be here. One picture is from inside the foot well and the other is under the hood. Am I missing something? They're on the tunnel side.
Thanks
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ClayJ Wrote:
Are those captive nuts on the outside shot?
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yes, that's why I'm a wonderin...
I've got them too. Tell the truth, this is the first I've noticed them. Probably has something to do with RHD cars, but I can't imagine what.
Hopefully some of our friends across the pond might know. :)
Good point Ron, the question would then be, why aren't they on the other side???
In the UK they are used to secure the framus rod to the body structure. The USA delivered cars didn't have framus rods as standard and the rods were hardly ever specified by the dealers when they ordered their stocks.
MG Mitten found a good use for them when they came up with the mousalator fixture, which was sold through their magazine ads. The mousalator was an early attempt at retaining Lucas vapor/smoke, and had great success at it until MG switched over to negative ground systems. The entire mousalator theory was based on positive ground hence the complete demise of the market for them.
Jack
twigworker Wrote:
In the UK they are used to secure the framus rod to the body structure. The USA delivered cars didn't have framus rods as standard and the rods were hardly ever specified by the dealers when they ordered their stocks.
MG Mitten found a good use for them when they came up with the mousalator fixture, which was sold through their magazine ads. The mousalator was an early attempt at retaining Lucas vapor/smoke, and had great success at it until MG switched over to negative ground systems. The entire mousalator theory was based on positive ground hence the complete demise of the market for them.
Jack
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Huh !!
Sounds like a left handed smoke-shifter
twigworker Wrote:
In the UK they are used to secure the framus rod to the body structure. The USA delivered cars didn't have framus rods as standard and the rods were hardly ever specified by the dealers when they ordered their stocks.
MG Mitten found a good use for them when they came up with the mousalator fixture, which was sold through their magazine ads. The mousalator was an early attempt at retaining Lucas vapor/smoke, and had great success at it until MG switched over to negative ground systems. The entire mousalator theory was based on positive ground hence the complete demise of the market for them.
Jack
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Well help me out here Twig. What is a "framus rod" and what the heck is a "mousalator fixture" Are you pulling my leg?
Sam
twigworker Wrote:
Which one?
Jack
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"framus rod" ... "mousalator fixture" .. or which leg?
Both.. I just tried googling both and didn't find a thing.. You really got me going now...LOL
Good one Jack. I think the MGOC offers the rods, but cannot ship outside of the UK due to national security. :)
Might be a good place to mount a fire extinguisher. :)
PM Hap.
I was talking to him recently about both and he knows more about both than I do.
Jack
I think he's pulling both legs and yanking your chain, all at the same time.
I'm sniffin a set-up here..... :) I'll do as you say ole wise one.. :)
Are the nust approximately in line with where the clutch. brake, and gas pedals would sit in the relaxed postition? What size are the nuts? 1/4"? On my '67 GT the headlight dipswitch was mounted up there somewhere on top of the small step in the side of the tunnel. Its been a long while since I had a MK 1 car and I can't remember exactly where it was bolted to. MK II cars have the dipswitch built in to the indiicator stalk.
I suspect that they might be to mount the bracket for the foot operated headlight high beam switch on early RHD cars. I will check when I get a chance.
My 66 had one but it was converted to a mark II indicator stalk (with the high beam on the stalk) so I eventually got rid of the bracket.
flash Wrote:
I suspect that they might be to mount the bracket for the foot operated headlight high beam switch on early RHD cars. I will check when I get a chance.
My 66 had one but it was converted to a mark II indicator stalk (with the high beam on the stalk) so I eventually got rid of the bracket.
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This is just what I was going to say, Peter. As I got down the post, I saw you'd said it so I can definitely confirm that they are for the dipper switch support bracket on the RHD cars.
However, I do like Jacks explanation better. :)
Chris
Yep - on most British cars the framus rod was replaced by the dip switch. The holes, and nuts, were left in place to allow for the optional "colonial confusion device" sometimes supplied with export models.
That happened in the late 50's. AMT plastic and tubes of Testor's, a prelude to the 50's.
Jack
twigworker Wrote:
That happened in the late 50's. AMT plastic and tubes of Testor's, a prelude to the 50's.
Jack
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Ah...that brings back memories! The first model I built was an AMT 1960 Corvette..made with Tetor's glue (BEFORE they added mustard scent to inhibit the sniffing!)
;)
MGST Wrote:
Are the nust approximately in line with where the clutch. brake, and gas pedals would sit in the relaxed postition? What size are the nuts? 1/4"? On my '67 GT the headlight dipswitch was mounted up there somewhere on top of the small step in the side of the tunnel. Its been a long while since I had a MK 1 car and I can't remember exactly where it was bolted to. MK II cars have the dipswitch built in to the indiicator stalk.
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Andrew, yes they are 1/4 ". and they are in line with the pedals. I think I'll plug them up somehow so dirt, air, grease, oil etc. doesn't deface my new insulation and carpeting...
:)
I think I will plug mine as well. I figure a couple of short bolts should take care of it. Or maybe I should get the bracket that holds the dimmer should I convert my car to RHD.
I think Sam's "photoshopped" them into the picture just to get a reaction out of everyone..........but I'm going to go check my '69 to make sure he hasn't been at my car.
Simon Austin Wrote:
I think Sam's "photoshopped" them into the picture just to get a reaction out of everyone..........but I'm going to go check my '69 to make sure he hasn't been at my car.
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Geez, thanks for the support Simon..LOL.. Anyways it's all legit. When I had my engine out I kinda wondered what they were for and just thought that I would find out when I change my carpet.. Well now I'm changing my carpet and I still hav eno idea what they're for. Let me know if they're on your 69 though.
Finally a legit use for RTV.
Why don't you just squirt a dab of the stuff up in the holes and smooth it out in both sides. That way it would be sealed with no chance of leaks AND be easily returned to OEM in the next millenium when some guy ends up with that car actually wanting to change it to RHD.
Jack
Oh, that's where the framus rod goes? Mine's been banging around loose for years. Must have to do with RHD cars. Maybe it's for attaching the in-car tea warmer? A bit odd, wot?
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