I'd like to upgrade my brakelines to braded stainless steel from the rubber ones which are looking quite tired. Any recommendations as to where I can get these?
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I got mine from MechSpec MG off of eBay. They are in the UK but even with the shipping they were cheaper than anywhere else that I could find. $60 including shipping. I would just go back with stock rubber lines though. The stainless aren't an "upgrade" IMHO.
I just swapped my rubber lines with stainless ones on my car three days ago. I've read on here of people saying that they are getting a firmer pedal out of them, which is what I was kind of expecting. That was not my case. Pedal feel is the exact same. I think what is happening is when people put the new hoses on, they are also bleeding their brakes. I think that their brakes really just needed be bled, but when they bleed them and add hoses at the same time, shazzam, the hoses are what helped!
Of course, you could just put the GT cylinders on there. I heard that is a good upgrade...
James - good point. Why does bleeding help? Is it because the brake fluid is "tired" or is it because there are air bubbles?
Cheers
Rich
Just air. You have to bleed them when you swap lines. My thought is people really just needed to give their brakes a good bleed in the first place. That or it is all a "mental improvement" for them. Just my opinion though.
gatorbrit Wrote:
OK, bleeding the brakes is next weekends job!
Cheers
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If you don't have any leaks in your system, and they were bled right when you first did them, they shouldn't have to be bled. If you didn't do the last brake job though, who knows.
Why do you think you have to upgrade your brakes though?
tired brake fluid is not the original color. the fluid will absorb moisture and over time
will darken compared to when it was new..need to bleed to prevent corrosion in
the system and fade.
lbcnut Wrote:
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I just swapped my rubber lines with stainless ones on my car three days ago. I've read on here of people saying that they are getting a firmer pedal out of them, which is what I was kind of expecting. That was not my case. Pedal feel is the exact same. I think what is happening is when people put the new hoses on, they are also bleeding their brakes. I think that their brakes really just needed be bled, but when they bleed them and add hoses at the same time, shazzam, the hoses are what helped! ......
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I don't understand how you could just swap the hoses without bleeding the brakes. Breaking the line from the MC to the slave anywhere would introduce air into the system and give you spongy brakes.
Chris
sweep Wrote:
I don't understand how you could just swap the hoses without bleeding the brakes. Breaking the line from the MC to the slave anywhere would introduce air into the system and give you spongy brakes.
Chris
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Wow, you don't say?
Where did you get the notion that I was suggesting they wouldn't have to bleed the brakes? Of course they would have to bleed them. That is common sense.
Sorry, I didn't realise that you don't mean what you actually say. My mistake.
Chris
"I think what is happening is when people put the new hoses on, they are also bleeding their brakes."
You must be referring to this sentence? Perhaps I should have said:
"I think what is happening is when people put the new hoses on, they are also required to bleed their brakes as well."
Phrased better? English isn't my forte...
the stainless lines need to be eyeballed, probably at every oil change/lube.
they are more likely to be damaged by road debris than the rubber ones and when they fail it is all over, whereas the stock lines wil usually give warning.
kinda like 195 tires vs 175s...the smaller ones will break lose sooner and with more warning, whereas the fat ones stick and stick and gone.
i think the "Goodridge" front lines are a couple inches too short...I don't like the appearance of tugging at full lock. but mine seem to be ok after about 5 years. (I like my 195s, too<G>)
Got mine from Summitt Auto Parts on line. They are Russell brand and fit well. they require adapter ends to mate to the MGB hard lines but are easy to fit. Called Russell tech and they gave me the part #'s and all is well. i was leary of E-Bay purchase since this is my BRAKES.
PM me if you decide to try Russell and i can share the part #''s. around $85 at time 2 years ago
You can make your own stainless braided lines or have them made at any good hydraulic shop. You will need the adaptors from the British flair to AN as most fittings for the braided stainless teflon lines are AN. I humbly disagree with Mac about these lines being any less roadworthy than the original rubber hoses, from my experience they are nearly "bullit proof". I've had them on my car for 8 years now without problem and they are used almost exclusivly on all race cars under extremely grueling conditions. The reason for the firmer pedal will only become apparent when you really stand on the brakes and get the line pressure up. The original reinforced rubber hoses tend to expand slightly under pressure and cause a tiny bit of pedal movement, the stainless braided teflon lines don't expand and thus you have a slightly firmer pedal under high loads. The two areas where brake hose failures might occur are the same with the braided stainless lines as with the rubber ones, the hose can blow out of the fitting or the hose can rupture. The fitting problem is probably less with a stainless line if properly assembled because the teflon and stainless material will not degrade or soften over time as will the rubber and the rated burst strength of the teflon line is much higher than the rubber line. One other failure with rubber lines is that they can swell internally and reduce or shut off fluid flow, the teflon lines won't do this. As you can see, I'm a fan of the stainless/teflon lines and don't hesitate to recommend them.
8 years Bill? They're just puppies! I've had the Goodridge on mine w/silicone 20 yrs.
Not a problem, never been changed, no leaks, knock wood.
Rob
Kelly, can you post a picture of the front of your car. That bumper bar treatment looks pretty cool.
I like the rubber brake hoses, you can examine them better.
lbcnut Wrote:
Why do you think you have to upgrade your brakes though?
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The brakes are a little mushy. Its hard to know what they should be like as this is my first B. But they don't feel as sharp as other cars I have driven. I replaced the front discs and pads this weekend, and I haven't bled the brakes since I got the car so some of this is just "getting to know" the car work.
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