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Nov 15, 2009 09:35:01
paul74

I understand how they might make bleeding easier because one does not have to worry about the air getting back into brake line.
But you still have be able to know when there are no more bubbles in the fluid as you depress the pedal.
Or are you going by the firmness of the pedal?
Am I missing something?
Thanks
Paul

Nov 15, 2009 09:45:01
Gary E

You still keep pumping until the bubbles stop. The bleeder allow a one man operation in the you crack one bleeder and use a long stick to push the pedal as you look under the car at the hose. It is still easier to have a pusher and a looker





Nov 15, 2009 10:13:26
PaulP

I've used a mirror so I can see the bleeder from the driver's seat

Nov 15, 2009 10:28:28
paul74

A pusher - looker - mirror - stick -
this does not sound like mechanics 101 :D

Nov 15, 2009 10:38:26
kirks-auto

Its a one way valve. i still think the 3 pump crack and bleed scenerio is best but others claim high regard for speed bleeders....
And then too for the sake of the marriage/relationship DON'T ask the lady to be the pumper....that is a 99.9% endorsed sentiment for those of us still married and or divorced;)

Nov 15, 2009 11:32:33
Simon Austin

Wise words, Robert. However, I must say my wife is usually receptive to providing the foot-required-pumping-action. Her biggest concern is if the car will fall off the jacks while she's sitting in it.

I usually tell her "You'll be fine sitting in the car. I, on the other-hand, being under the car (or a body-portion thereof) will have more to worry about."

I'll be asking her to do this very task later today. Better catch her before her nap time.

Nov 15, 2009 11:59:28
paul74

"You'll be fine sitting in the car. I, on the other-hand....."


If I tried that line l would be banned from the garage for ever:hot:
Paul

Nov 15, 2009 12:03:25
Selmo Saladino

i have used speed bleeders and i have been quite happy with using them.

Nov 15, 2009 12:21:34
GeeMoo

If you still use clear tubing on the bleeder, the fluid sits in the tube after each pump and you can pop out after every few pumps to see if the line is pure fluid with no bubbles.
Worked for me. I like the speed bleeders. I got the stainless ones.

Nov 15, 2009 12:52:32
tomkatb

I purchased speed bleeders from Autozone for our recent Ford project.

Cheap Chinese made crap. Threads failed first time they were used. Junk.

I assume the ones sold elsewhere are better quality.

I was unaware that there are hundreds of sizes of bleeders. My Ford dealer wanted $9 each for them with a minimum purchase of 10. i.E $90 plus shipping for the one I needed.

I have a power bleeder. For the price of four bleeders you are more than halfway to purchasing a power bleeder. It will make your MG life better. The wife will like it too.

Nov 15, 2009 13:42:15
kirks-auto

Quote: "
Wise words, Robert. However, I must say my wife is usually receptive to providing the foot-required-pumping-action. Her biggest concern is if the car will fall off the jacks while she's sitting in it.

I usually tell her "You'll be fine sitting in the car. I, on the other-hand, being under the car (or a body-portion thereof) will have more to worry about."

I'll be asking her to do this very task later today. Better catch her before her nap time."


That's not merely a mortal woman that is a Saint! You can tell her from me if you choose.....:eyepop:

Nov 15, 2009 14:33:17
rlich8

Got mine off ebay, some of the best money I spent on my MGB. Did not have any issues with quality or anything of that nature. Only praise about them.

Nov 15, 2009 16:11:35
Steve S

I better watch for signs of divorce because my wife has pumped the pedal for me at least a dozen different times over the past three months. She doesn't mind at all, she just reads a magazine as I move from wheel to wheel. :)

Nov 15, 2009 16:21:29
Kats Bee

Just got done bleeding the brakes on Kathys LE.....she didnt like how they felt. She pumped and held like she knew what she was doing. And the reason she did it was because she was the one complaining about how they felt while driving. You complain about it....you help fix it. She also did the test drive after the work as done. She approved.

Nov 15, 2009 16:52:47
Sebring222

I've been using Speed Bleeders for years with good results. I have and still use a MityVac as well. Be cautious about keeping the master cylinder full, it's really a drag to almost be done with the job and find out that you're pumping air and not brake fluid.

Nov 15, 2009 20:48:20
paul74

" If you still use clear tubing on the bleeder, the fluid sits in the tube after each pump..."

Good idea Greg, didn't thlnk of that.
Let the bleeding begin-well, after everything is put back together again.
Thanks
Paul

Nov 15, 2009 22:30:59
RAY 67 TOURER

The E-Z Bleed unit is easy to use and won't run out of brake fluid for quite a while. It is powered by the air pressure in your spare tire so that all you have to do is crack each bleeder until the fluid comes out clear and then move on to the next bleeder. When finished and you remove the connector from your master cylinder, it is already filled to the top. RAY

Nov 16, 2009 06:56:34
NovasTaylor

I second Ray's comments on the Gunison Ezi-bleed system. I was skeptical about it at first but am totally sold on it now! I've used speedbleeders and did not see a huge advantage over regular bleeding. I use the Ezi Bleed for brakes and clutch slave cylinder and get a perfect bleed with the minium of fluid waste each time.

From my experience if I was deciding what to throw my $ at, it would be Ezi Bleed over SpeedBleeders, but to each his own.

Tim

Nov 16, 2009 09:36:02
tomkatb

Funny thing Ray..

For a B one needs 5 speed bleeders for the car. About $50.

A Motive power (early cars)bleeder costs $59. The Gunnison is even less. However these tools will last your lifetime.

Think, all the clutch and brake bleeding questions on this site would go away.

Bleeding a brake system in 15 minutes and no wife involvement!

It takes me longer to jack the car up and remove the wheels than to bled the brakes. The new hassle is cleaning up the bleeder.

In fact new cars are requiring you to bleed their brakes every 3-4 years. Shops charge $60 or more for that. With a lift and a power bleeder it takes 10 minutes.

Seems like a no brainer to me.

Nov 16, 2009 22:10:25
paul74

I tried google but dont come up with an american supplier. Got a source?
It sounds like a good idea. Thanks
Paul

Nov 16, 2009 23:34:57
RAY 67 TOURER

Larry, what was I thinking! Paul, the E-Z Bleed is available from the usual British car suppliers. Speedbleeders can be purchased at any of the major auto parts stores. RAY

Nov 17, 2009 07:10:33
tomkatb

Do not buy the speed bleeders from the local parts stores. The ones I bought were poorly made at best. Failed on installation. The threads came off on installation. They were gently installed. I have arthritis in both hands.

I like the motive model 0110 for the early cars. However you would need more adapters for other cars. I have the model 0252 and a Gunnison kit I got off ebay for $15. I have an adapter for everything.

This is one of my favorite tools. There are 3 old cars in our family. Our new Honda needs its brakes flushed every 2-3 years as well.

Nov 17, 2009 08:37:31
Mr. Barry

Russell makes the best speed bleeders....I don't know where others are buying them, but usually, they are anywhere from $11 to $14 a pair....
I have used them for years, and bleeding the brakes takes about 15 minutes, by myself....Longer, if the system has all new parts.
I borrowed a top-of-the-line Mityvac, and it took an hour, and lots of pumping to get the job done...glad I don't own one.

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