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Jun 13, 2008 23:25:21
Snakey Pete

Are you guys done yet?

We're losing the will to live over here!

Jun 14, 2008 05:11:37
saffyres

Hahaha! You think it's bad THERE???? You ought to be over HERE!!!!

(My FIL says the news over there is just FULL of our election stuff...)





Jun 14, 2008 05:26:54
MGSteph

Were pretty sick of it too and if the founding fathers had chosen a parlimentry system of goverment the criminal Bush would have been gone four or five years ago though I doubt if he could make it through one priministers question session !

Jun 14, 2008 06:23:34
Simon

OH I just look forward to seeing all the crap you've been laying on Bushs door come home to the Deomcrats - who funnily enough hold majorities in the Congress and Senate.

How many of you Democrats are going to get annoyed when the Republicians start saying Obama (if elected, which I for one hope not) is a criminal for they way he handled this matter, or he was uneducated over the way he did that matter. WAKE UP TO YOURSELVES.

The history shows that every single president this country has ever had made poor choices based on the information they had available AT THE TIME. Picking on that choice, not matter who the president was, is wrong simply because YOU have the ADVANTAGE of 20/20 hindsight.

Yes the presidents gets thing wrong after all THEY ARE HUMAN.

How many of you here can honestly say that you never made a poor decision based on available data, or that you have never made a msistake??

Jun 14, 2008 06:52:39
wyatt

...i invented the term...

Jun 14, 2008 10:01:20
cstrong45

How many of you here can honestly say that you never made a poor decision based on available data, or that you have never made a msistake??


The trouble is when we make a mistake it isn't on the same scale or have the same consequences. You have to make a better case than that. When the leader of the free world attacks a country, its news, when I decide to buy Safeway gas to save a few cents over Shell, no one cares.

Jun 14, 2008 10:12:05
KLUTZ

Is Florida doing the electronic vote thing again this time? Actually... I am sure we will get used to hearing, "President McCain" up here.

Paul

Jun 14, 2008 17:20:27
Simon

cstrong45 Wrote:

Quote: "
How many of you here can honestly say that you never made a poor decision based on available data, or that you have never made a msistake??
The trouble is when we make a mistake it isn't on the same scale or have the same consequences. You have to make a better case than that. When the leader of the free world attacks a country, its news, when I decide to buy Safeway gas to save a few cents over Shell, no one cares.
"


Agreed the degree maybe different, but the concept remains, ANYONE can make a wrong decision based on the data they have at the time. Why should we abuse,accuse and castigate anyone for doing so??

Jun 14, 2008 19:39:02
Gerry

"ANYONE can make a wrong decision based on the data they have at the time."

Wrong-some have never made a mistake, at least that what I hear. Anything that they do that does not come out right is someone else's fault

Jun 14, 2008 20:35:23
mabie1978

Paul let's hope that Florida has learned something, surely without a Bush on the ballet they will suddenly remember how to count votes properly. Now here in Ohio that may be another matter, in Cleveland they have changed the way to vote 2 times in the last 3 elections. Go figure.

Jun 14, 2008 20:57:23
TKMad

Simon, don't bother. People like Mike will never accept the fact that Bush is demonized because he actually made a decision and took action. Even though Mike knows that the Clintons and Kerry and all the other lefties were saying the EXACT same things about Iraq and the WMD etc. and their inaction is what actually caused the attack of 911, he won't admit it to himself. Mike knows it is much better to sit back and wait until others do something then attack them for not doing the exactly correct thing.

Jun 14, 2008 22:08:06
Soyokaze 72MGB

Snakey Pete Wrote:

Quote: "
Are you guys done yet?
We're losing the will to live over here!
"


I can see why....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/15/georgebush.iraq

George Bush flies into London today with a warning for Gordon Brown not to announce a timetable for a British pull-out from Iraq, and expressing deep scepticism about the Prime Minister's high-profile strategy for bringing down world oil prices.

The stern message to the Prime Minister was delivered during an exclusive interview with The Observer, and contrasted with praise for Tony Blair whom Bush is scheduled to meet for breakfast tomorrow ahead of talks in Downing Street. Bush said Blair had never been his 'poodle', but a leader who shared his view that the world is in an 'ideological struggle' and that 'ultimately freedom has to defeat the ideology of hate'.

But while he said both allies obviously wanted to bring their troops home, this could only be ‘based upon success’. On the reported possibility of a formal timetable for major reductions, Bush was unequivocal: ‘Our answer is: there should be no definitive timetable.’

He pointedly noted that Brown had retreated last year on the scale of an earlier planned pullout - and that Britain still had 4,200 soldiers in Iraq rather than the projected 3,500. ‘I am confident that he, like me, will listen to our commanders to make sure that the sacrifices that have gone forward won’t be unravelled by draw-downs that may not be warranted at this point in time. I look forward to discussing it with him.’

The President also reacted coolly to Brown's suggestion of a series of international conferences - beginning with a Saudi-hosted meeting of producer and consumer nations on Sunday - to tackle rising world oil prices.

Bush called it an 'interesting idea', but warned against expectations of any major short-term improvement and made it clear he had no plans to go. 'I'm going to go home and take a look at what it all means and I'll decide who's going to attend on our behalf,' Bush said.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/15/georgebush.iraq

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